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Re: Fantasma by Thirdway Industries [KS April/May 2023]

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I have one thats a 390nm, but I don’t think yours or mine will work well with these…. At least not optimally…

“premium 365nm UV flashlight, the GhostCatcher is extremely powerful, and reveals ALL Invisible inks”

It is my understanding the inks used (at least some) are specific to 365nm and work especially poorly with 390

It does seem that 365 is the bees knees in UVs


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I had a lot of bad luck on Amazon finding a real 365 mm. You can tell it versus a 395 because it will be much brighter with a 365 but depends on the ink as well.
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Fenrir wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:39 pm I had a lot of bad luck on Amazon finding a real 365 mm. You can tell it versus a 395 because it will be much brighter with a 365 but depends on the ink as well.
I have this one that works pretty well.
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Adamthinks wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:00 pm
Fenrir wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:39 pm I had a lot of bad luck on Amazon finding a real 365 mm. You can tell it versus a 395 because it will be much brighter with a 365 but depends on the ink as well.
I have this one that works pretty well.
That’s the same one I bought. Works great.
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Even that Deal Playing Cards by Darkside, you have to use 365nm light - so yeah, 365nm is a superior one
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Thanks everyone for the info and links!
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KS wrote:Quick update - everything has been completed, we're ready to ship. The shipping process should start next week --- but the orders are many, so I'm expecting it might take some days to be completed. GW & Deallez should ship everything in June as promised, you should get the tracking automatically during the next 2 weeks via email.
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Wow :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I had some doubts that these would actually look as good as they did in the campaign, but these look amazing with the UV flashlight he sold -- it is seriously BRIGHT :ugthink:

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Thanks for those great photos hsbc. It really shows off the 3D effect of the different UV colors. It looks even more impressive in person. I was not expecting that effect at all, so it really stunned me when I shined the black light on it. The UV ink is a bit gimmicky, but man it is still impressive.
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Great photos! This one played off the gimmick of UV ink so well. Just a great effect. And props for the tucks as well - which are beautifully printed.
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Are those UV effects on every base card for all versions of the deck? I only bought one with the black tuck box.
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Swiski66 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:45 am Are those UV effects on every base card for all versions of the deck? I only bought one with the black tuck box.
Yes :D
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The 3D effect only shows up when there are multiple UV inks used. I am guessing that there are two different UV wavelengths used and that it is these different wavelengths that is creating the 3D effect.
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Fenrir wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:39 pm I had a lot of bad luck on Amazon finding a real 365 mm. You can tell it versus a 395 because it will be much brighter with a 365 but depends on the ink as well.
Try Darkbeam B40 365NM Pro Max... It's a beast and lights up these cards in a dramatic way!!!
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The flashlight included is ok. But if you want so see something dramatic, get a powerful 365nm filtered UV flashlight like the Darkbeam B40 365NM Pro Max. The cards under this light are unbelievable!! Keep the room light on.
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I can attest to that flashlight only because I witnessed it firsthand through Paul. Keep it away from eyes and skin as you can actually feel it slightly burning.
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I like my flashlights spicy
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Arrived today. They look beautiful, the tuck stock is such a nice texture. I need to get a flashlight to give them a proper spin. Another brilliant and unique project.
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Wow, Gio’s “GhostCatcher” is really powerful - so powerful that UV elements just lits up even more than before (including, the now very smudged Black Market decks)

I am hoping Fantasma cards last long through the test of time
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laitostarr777 wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:34 am Wow, Gio’s “GhostCatcher” is really powerful - so powerful that UV elements just lits up even more than before (including, the now very smudged Black Market decks)

I am hoping Fantasma cards last long through the test of time
I thought it was only my Black Market that turn out like this. Does this mean that UV inks will dissipate/bleed over time?
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Kage X wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:43 am
laitostarr777 wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:34 am Wow, Gio’s “GhostCatcher” is really powerful - so powerful that UV elements just lits up even more than before (including, the now very smudged Black Market decks)

I am hoping Fantasma cards last long through the test of time
I thought it was only my Black Market that turn out like this. Does this mean that UV inks will dissipate/bleed over time?
They shouldn't but I can't confirm as I haven't played with mine. The overspray is a result of the printing process if that is what you are referring to.
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It’s not the overspray. Some UV details, like the hidden hearts, have now turned into a blurry mess
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I just pulled out one of my opened fantasma decks, and it looks the same as when I opened it. The blue ink is a bit fuzzy, but I think that was by design. The red and green ink is sharp as ever. Everything still looks great to me.
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Kage X wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:25 pm It’s not the overspray. Some UV details, like the hidden hearts, have now turned into a blurry mess
Strange. Never heard of that happening.
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Bradius wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:04 pm I just pulled out one of my opened fantasma decks, and it looks the same as when I opened it. The blue ink is a bit fuzzy, but I think that was by design. The red and green ink is sharp as ever. Everything still looks great to me.
Laito and I were talking about the UV ink on the Black Market deck. If you have one, maybe try and see whether you got the same result as us.
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Fantasma Revenant coming soon



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hsbc wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:30 pm Fantasma Revenant coming soon

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KS Link in a previous post
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The third deck, Fantasma Extreme, will be printed with King Star :uggrin:
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hsbc wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:58 pm The third deck, Fantasma Extreme, will be printed with King Star :uggrin:
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