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TheGentlemanWake wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:00 pm I'm having a really hard time with how much this campaign is struggling. I do think the video doesn't help sell the cards and the offerings were a bit confusing with photos nor video really showing what each deck consisted of. I also agree that the prices at $28 seem a bit high for one deck. But the artwork is fantastic. I see some people complaining about repeating courts... the only thing potentially repeating feels like the facial hair on the jacks. Ultimately the courts feel different enough. I'm really beginning to be worried that the playing cards renaissance is somewhat fading.
I don't know about fading, but my own collection has hit a saturation point where a deck has to A) be substantially different from something I already have B) speak to me on the deepest personal level. I have about 500 unique decks and maybe if I played with them more I might feel more inclined to widen the collection. As it stands, I've become super-picky. I think newer collectors would still be delighted to get this deck.
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There is *so much* here to like. This deck really is (mostly) up my alley. And, as similar as the courts are to each other until you look closer, I could give that a pass... Love the colors, love the design... but really, at the listed prices, I just can't.

This is what kept me away from the original Marvelous decks. Well, that and the hype that led up to it and the dismissive response I'd seen from the House of Marvelous when someone deigned to complain.

In this case, hype is not the issue. Recent customer service interactions aren't the issue. Price is still the issue... for me.

I wish I could participate, but I just can't.

That said, I wish this project success. Like the Marvelous decks before these, they should still be out there in this world.
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I have dropped my pledge also. Been in a funk lately, not getting as many decks as typical. Just not feeling much excitement with the hobby lately.
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Man, I must be the exception here. I've been backing more decks than usual lately. Currently backing 4, and another 6 that have funded in the past month. I decided not to go with a gilded deck on this campaign, but I love that back design too much to not back this one.
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brownsl wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:17 pm I have dropped my pledge also. Been in a funk lately, not getting as many decks as typical. Just not feeling much excitement with the hobby lately.
I feel like this is the case for a lot of folks, myself included. It’s not that I’m not excited but my collection is much more curated from the time I started. I also owned so much that it felt overwhelming. That said, I still enjoy the hobby.

I wish them luck but pricing here is above what I’m willing to spend for the deck.
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I prefer to be picky and prefer for the nice decks to not come in a bank account busting flood. A nice slow roll out of decks from my favorite designers with a manageable light flow of new designers decks and one offs coming along.

One thing that narrowing my additions and having so many decks has accomplished is that it has put me in the right place to start exploring vintage, antique and hand made decks.
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GandalfPC wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:10 pm I prefer to be picky and prefer for the nice decks to not come in a bank account busting flood. A nice slow roll out of decks from my favorite designers with a manageable light flow of new designers decks and one offs coming along.

One thing that narrowing my additions and having so many decks has accomplished is that it has put me in the right place to start exploring vintage, antique and hand made decks.
May I interest you in this lovely hand made deck, worthy of the finest zipping. Perhaps even too beautiful, that it should be kept zipped up for eternity. I completely get what you mean though Gandalf. Eventually, some of the appeal of modern decks where off, but the itch for the hunt continues, and obscure decks with unique artworks start to become quite appealing, at least for me.
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Not to add to the negativity, but this was a pass for me also—at least for now. I've actually been backing more kickstarters than ever recently, and maybe that's partly why the price is the main blocker for me. I wish the campaign the best though and I'm sure they'll get funded, the decks look beautiful.
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I'm surprised at how many of you are skipping this one - this and LoTR are the only two projects I'm backing right now
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I love what I am seeing of this deck! I will admit that the price is definitely a tough pill to swallow, especially considering the fact that I know there are some decks releasing soon that will have me straining my card budget to the max. If I do decide it’s too much for me, I’ll likely do what GandolfPC did and just pledge for the cheaper Colors of Light deck.
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I'm also not a fan of oversized tuck boxes in general, and I suspect this fancy drawer-style box with the embossed foil is what's adding a lot to the cost. If there were a version with the HOW back design and a standard tuck box I would be more likely to back. As it is I might just go for the Colors of Light as well.
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manu wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:10 pm I'm also not a fan of oversized tuck boxes in general, and I suspect this fancy drawer-style box with the embossed foil is what's adding a lot to the cost. If there were a version with the HOW back design and a standard tuck box I would be more likely to back. As it is I might just go for the Colors of Light as well.
I too am surprised at the omission of a more 'standard' release in a traditional tuck box. You all know I love my bells and whistles, but I also think there should be a 'budget-conscious' option for Kickstarters. Not to highjack the thread, but the only reason the CAP line (Goldsmith, Villa Beluno, etc.) will be a 1 sku project is because we're moving it OFF of Kickstarter because we plan to release 4 deck designs (8 decks) a year in the line. I'm actually debating on whether or not to present it as a $33 monthly subscription rather than the one time $100 charge. But this is a conversation for another thread.
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Strag wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:02 am ... and Kickstarter has made it clear you have zero protection as a backer.

I'd rather pay more in the aftermarket for a deck I like than backing on Kickstarter these days.
Sadly... yeah....
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Wait, I didn’t say that! lol. I think your quote was mis attributed
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TheGentlemanWake wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:36 am Wait, I didn’t say that! lol. I think your quote was mis attributed
Sorry Wake, sometimes it gets confusing if there are quote withint quotes 😑😓
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laitostarr777 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:19 am
TheGentlemanWake wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:36 am
Strag wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:02 am
kevork wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:22 pm
Fenrir wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:04 pm
GandalfPC wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:10 pm
True dat.
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GandalfPC wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:40 pm
laitostarr777 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:19 am
TheGentlemanWake wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:36 am
Strag wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:02 am
kevork wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:22 pm
Fenrir wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:04 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: Wait, what?
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What do you know?! The project finally reached it's funding goals!
Although that might be problamatic since we all know - KS will collect platform fee, thus reducing productions funding
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For anyone who is on the fence, don't forget that you can't cancel in the last 24 hours if your total pledge brings the campaign below funding.
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Fenrir wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pm For anyone who is on the fence, don't forget that you can't cancel in the last 24 hours if your total pledge brings the campaign below funding.
??? Is this new?
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“During the last 24 hours of the campaign, you can't decrease or cancel your pledge without contacting customer support first—if that action would drop the project below its funding goal. Once the project has been funded, you can only cancel or change your pledge by making special arrangements directly with the creator.”

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It’s been there for over a year from what I know. You can cancel on the last day as long as it doesn’t put them below funding. That’s the only time it’s an issue.
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Fenrir wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pm For anyone who is on the fence, don't forget that you can't cancel in the last 24 hours if your total pledge brings the campaign below funding.
This is what was explained happened to Partenope. Creator cancelled the project at 100% funding because too many people wanted to cancel but Kickstarter wouldn't let them.
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So glad this one funded. Wish it had gotten more so we could see that 4th deck.
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I am also happy this funded. Although, I did end up pairing down my pledge to a single gilded Colors of Light deck. I love the deck itself, but in the end the fancy tuck boxes just weren’t nice or cool enough to justify the price. I had to save my money for some upcoming releases that I like better.
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CourtCurator wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:45 pm I am also happy this funded. Although, I did end up pairing down my pledge to a single gilded Colors of Light deck. I love the deck itself, but in the end the fancy tuck boxes just weren’t nice or cool enough to justify the price. I had to save my money for some upcoming releases that I like better.
Agreed. I changed my pledge a bunch in the final few days, but settled on a single The Great Hall and Colors of Light deck. The design of the cards is beautiful, and although the fancy tuck isn't really my thing I'm still excited to see it in person.
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Yes, it is funded... although is it enough to cover the Kickstarter fee and still have the funds to do production?
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laitostarr777 wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:05 pm Yes, it is funded... although is it enough to cover the Kickstarter fee and still have the funds to do production?
I don't see why it wouldn't It's not like the goal was $5k.
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Adamthinks wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:31 pm
laitostarr777 wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:05 pm Yes, it is funded... although is it enough to cover the Kickstarter fee and still have the funds to do production?
I don't see why it wouldn't It's not like the goal was $5k.
Reasons for doubting is that: most playing card projects, they either have 300% up to 1000%, so they have much money to spare for any backups. Although, in case like this, only 2% above 100%, it's a bit worrying as they can't afford screwups in productions

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