Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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OG Eva still is the best imo.
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rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
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Harvonsgard wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:42 pm OG Eva still is the best imo.
I believe it was also supposed to be the only one.
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vasta41 wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 7:34 pm
Harvonsgard wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:42 pm OG Eva still is the best imo.
I believe it was also supposed to be the only one.
Curious I do recall something like that, but then again, it's not stated in the KS campaign page or his webstore.

On another note, Gio seems to be getting hit with the same experimentation bug that Lotrek did when he was going through his Grotesk and Icons phase. (I can't keep track on just how many variants he had for those 2 decks alone!)
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Creators create and this is great. So I don't gripe any creator changing their mind over time. I just don't see any added artistic value to the new variants. Especially the diffraction foil Eva feels like a - no offense meant - feature whore instead of a clear artistic vision. That's why they get a meh from me.
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At the time, the original Eva deck was a little expensive but I splurged only because it is one of a kind. Now that there are so many more variants, I still don't regret my purchase and I'd rather Gio make decks than not. LOL I basically just sighed and got over it.
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The original Eva deck is the only deck I have an entire brick of. Maybe all these new variants will inspire me to finally sell them all.
I've spent way more than I care to admit on playing cards, but I'll still buy just about anything that Lorenzo, Jackson, or Gio make.
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What I find frustrating is that the Red Rose variant was so difficult to get for me and I was not able to get one. I have a single hole in the Eva set and the completionist in me, is annoyed. It leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
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brownsl wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:53 pm What I find frustrating is that the Red Rose variant was so difficult to get for me and I was not able to get one. I have a single hole in the Eva set and the completionist in me, is annoyed. It leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
Same here, and I've been with Gio practically from the beginning on Patreon. That was the only time in all these years that I was really disappointed in him. :cry:
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brownsl wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:53 pm What I find frustrating is that the Red Rose variant was so difficult to get for me and I was not able to get one. I have a single hole in the Eva set and the completionist in me, is annoyed. It leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
xerxes-9000 wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 5:35 am Same here, and I've been with Gio practically from the beginning on Patreon. That was the only time in all these years that I was really disappointed in him. :cry:
+1 I really like the red color he used :ugthink:
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I think this is planned to launch sometime this month, not sure exactly when :ugthink:

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I have decided to launch the project next week, Tuesday 21th June. I am planning to fulfill Eva Kickstarter very quickly, I have submitted the decks in production long time ago and in the worst case scenario, the Eva decks will be fulfilled in September.
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Live now :D
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3 day campaign?
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It would seem so! Patrons are also set to receive one of each of these decks, so I'm sitting this campaign out
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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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GandalfPC wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:03 am 3 day campaign?
Oh yeah; well spotted.

For once I'm not backing for decks, only the "no reward" option so I can follow along. I decided long ago to only get one of each deck I collect and, since I'll be getting these visa Patreon, then, well, you can figure out the rest.
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Patreon also - massive sword - so I am sitting out the campaign as well
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I'm a tad annoyed that the Patreon exclusive decks are available on this campaign, and for less than it cost for Patrons. $270 for the first 3 quarters gets you one of each, whereas in the campaign the "early" 2022 minibox gets you one of each, plus two of each Eva deck for $262.
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Adamthinks wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:46 pm I'm a tad annoyed that the Patreon exclusive decks are available on this campaign, and for less than it cost for Patrons. $270 for the first 3 quarters gets you one of each, whereas in the campaign the "early" 2022 minibox gets you one of each, plus two of each Eva deck for $262.
That... does seem inconsiderate of Patrons :(
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Adamthinks wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:46 pm I'm a tad annoyed that the Patreon exclusive decks are available on this campaign, and for less than it cost for Patrons. $270 for the first 3 quarters gets you one of each, whereas in the campaign the "early" 2022 minibox gets you one of each, plus two of each Eva deck for $262.
First, one of those Eva sets is also part of the Patreon rewards. Second, I believe the argument would be that the first three quarters also gets you 75% of the annual reward in there as well.
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Adamthinks wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:46 pm I'm a tad annoyed that the Patreon exclusive decks are available on this campaign, and for less than it cost for Patrons. $270 for the first 3 quarters gets you one of each, whereas in the campaign the "early" 2022 minibox gets you one of each, plus two of each Eva deck for $262.
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The price of the KS tier is more or less like 9 months of Patreon, but the subscription includes a lot of extras (discount on TWI website, the posts, the flash deals, ...) and, most importantly, the yearly reward(s) . I am focusing Patreon on yearly rewards a lot from this year and I would say that the yearly reward is probably the most important reason to subscribe nowadays (as a Patron, you should know why ;) )

However, I've realized that, despite the lack of yearly reward & other perks, the KS deal was a little too good, so I've fixed it. Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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Instead of being joyful that others get a great deal ...
*slow claps*
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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Well, I have the Patron stuff and am picking up a couple of more sets because.....nuts. Those box sets are rather nice too as they include the Egoism Relic and BM Cripto decks. Good stuff.
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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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Yeah, another Patreon patron here and I, too, am picking up a couple more pair of the new Eva decks. Unlike the wise Timmargh, I still typically try to grab two or three of each deck that I want to add to my collection... mostly because I'm insane.

As for making the 2022-so-far Patreon decks available at a decent price as a set, it occurred to me to wonder: "should I be bothered that 'Patreon-exclusive' decks are being made available to non-patrons?" So, I wondered... and then I considered... and then I realized, "Nope. I got a good deal, I'm getting additional goodies, and just because some other people get to enjoy these awesome decks doesn't diminish my enjoyment of these awesome decks."

I understand the *principle* behind wanting "Patreon-exclusive" decks to be super hard to get, but even so, I just can't find a way to get upset about it.

Gio takes care of the people who take care of him. And, truly, my love for playing cards is not injured when others also love the same playing cards. YMMV and all that.
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☝🏿 This is the way.
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rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
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I have a huge amount of TWI decks and whilst I like a lot of them, there is a certain amount of similarity that is starting to create some fatigue for more. For now I am just keeping my Patreon alive but won't back any campaigns or pick up extra decks and will consider at end of year which Patreons I actually keep and if TWI will be one of them or not.
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Strag wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:51 am I have a huge amount of TWI decks and whilst I like a lot of them, there is a certain amount of similarity that is starting to create some fatigue for more. For now I am just keeping my Patreon alive but won't back any campaigns or pick up extra decks and will consider at end of year which Patreons I actually keep and if TWI will be one of them or not.
Making 10-11 new Patreon decks per year, like I've did for 2021 (and very likely for 2022) would be impossible if I cannot rely on doing some new editions of my "old" decks, like I've did for Eva or Monolith.
Of course I am trying, when possible, to introduce 100% new designs on Patreon, like I've did for Conquerors, Black Market and Egoism but... well... I am human and honestly is not easy :mrgreen:

By the way - apart Eva, which is an atypical campaign, I am planning only new projects on future 2022 Kickstarters (i.e. Heartless)

I have at least one huge surprise for Patreon 2022 (100% new design).

Will do my best to keep things interesting and valuable, but, at least for now, I will need to rely on some redesigns per year to keep Patreon valuable and not burning out myself :-)
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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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I can say that I truly appreciate all of the hard work you put into your cards. While I know you have to supplement existing series to keep the value and timeline you have decided for your patreon, have you ever considered doing less decks a year?

There are many other patreon subscriptions who either send out rewards less frequently or have less items during the year but give more insight and collaboration into the process along with either more daring or expensive upgrades (foil, embossing, cut-outs etc...). Might help keep you from burning out and stop people from complaining about series getting too long.
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Re: Eva Legendary (Celeste and Splendida) by TWI [KS June 21 2022]

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rousselle wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:19 am Yeah, another Patreon patron here and I, too, am picking up a couple more pair of the new Eva decks. Unlike the wise Timmargh, I still typically try to grab two or three of each deck that I want to add to my collection... mostly because I'm insane. [...]
Oh yes, so wise! :ugking:

Seriously, though, it's more of a financial and storage issue; I have a single room with very little space.
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Fenrir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:46 pm I can say that I truly appreciate all of the hard work you put into your cards. While I know you have to supplement existing series to keep the value and timeline you have decided for your patreon, have you ever considered doing less decks a year?

There are many other patreon subscriptions who either send out rewards less frequently or have less items during the year but give more insight and collaboration into the process along with either more daring or expensive upgrades (foil, embossing, cut-outs etc...). Might help keep you from burning out and stop people from complaining about series getting too long.
ssshhhhhhhh! shush! the thing that makes his patreon so good is not only the cards but he puts out more than others. i like getting the decks even if some are recolors.

so no. not less decks. pay no mind to this advice Gio. :uggrin:
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