(NOTE: I've cross-posted this response on the Matsuri relaunch thread, as well)
I've approved this new post from babasam007 for publication, but I have to make an observation and ask some obvious questions about it.
I notice that this account is logging in and posting from the same IP address as the following accounts:
TorresOVER -- the account that has been running the design of the Schrodinger's Cat deck through the drafting board.
thekeycardcompany -- the account of the "new" company that is running the relaunched version of the Matsuri Playing Cards project on Kickstarter, with no apparent track record of running KS campaigns.
Revelation Workshop -- the account of the original company that ran the previous Matsuri Playing Cards project on Kickstarter. The only KS project launched by Revelation Workshop that funded (
https://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10319, albeit they were using the name eveworkshop at the time here at UC) appears to either have never shipped, or at the very least, nobody ever commented that they received their decks on KS but several backers commented that they did not receive anything. (
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/61 ... u/comments). Revelation Workshop appeared to have stopped posting, or even logging onto KS, sometime around December of 2018 until a couple weeks ago, when they posted on the original Matsuri campaign page to say that it would be relaunching soon. They did not, however, post anything on the Element Playing Card page to address the concerns of backers who never received their decks.
NeonCardHK -- an account of the company/person who ran the Neon Playing Cards project on Kickstarter that never shipped, but posted on another thread here that this was because of bad-faith dealing by Bocopo (which, to be fair, is a plausible explanation), and that they plan to fulfill the project soon. This account has also posted on the Schrodinger's Cat page to say, "This looks good."
Christian W.L. -- another account that is simply posting to say "this looks good" on the relaunched Matsuri project thread and the Schrodinger's Cat thread.
It is very unusual for multiple accounts to post from the same IP address, even when they are all posting from the same city.
If one looks at the IP addresses (click the "i" button in the upper right-hand corner of any given post) on the thread for the Element deck (link above), you'll notice that posts saying "backed" are from the same IP address as the "eveworkshop" account that originally posted as the manager of the campaign. ("eveworkshop" appears to have given way to "Revelation Workshop" on Kickstarter, if you look at the "project creator" of the project.) The original website for the Element Playing Cards has long been abandoned.
I really like the design of the Matsuri deck and the Schrodinger's Cat deck, which are both clever and well executed, but I am concerned that there may be some business practices here that raise a lot of serious questions about the viability of these projects.
My questions include:
1) Has any reputable UC member backed the aforementioned Element Playing Card project and received their decks? Bonus points if they don't live in Hong Kong.
2) Has NeonCardHK fulfilled their project yet to anyone on the UC?
3) Key Card Company: what is your relationship with NeonCardHK, Revelation Workshop, and eveworkshop?
Once the Neon project is fulfilled and the Element project is fulfilled, I'll feel more comfortable with the Matsuri and Schrodinger's Cat projects. Until those are fulfilled, I'd prefer to wait until these appear at our favorite retailers of custom decks.
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