Monte Carlo Diffractor (OATH x VXD)

[jerichoholic]

There are many amazing tuck cases out there, 90% of which were not done by Lotrek. As mentioned above many companies do great tucks.

[VXD]

Incoming....

[VXD]

Preview link for those interested:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vx ... ying-cards

Hope to see you there.

Thanks!

[Bradius]

I am not sure, but it seemed like there were only a very few Monti Carlo "Grimaldi" metal decks available, which were in some very limited tiers. By the time I figured out how limited they were and which options had them, they were all gone. I am sorry, but this was really confusing to sort through in a few seconds. I did manage to pick some I guess standard deck "Grimaldi" versions. Why were the "Grimaldi" metal deck versions so limited? This whole thing seems odd and unnecessary.

Even now as I read the descriptions I am totally confused about what tier has metal sets and which don't.

[Daisho]

And it's funded! In just under 30 minutes, with a $35,000 goal, no less.

I am not sure, but it seemed like there were only a very few Monti Carlo "Grimaldi" metal decks available, which were in some very limited tiers. By the time I figured out how limited they were and which options had them, they were all gone. I am sorry, but this was really confusing to sort through in a few seconds. I did manage to pick some I guess standard deck "Grimaldi" versions. Why were the "Grimaldi" metal deck versions so limited? This whole thing seems odd and unnecessary.

EDIT: After looking at the tiers and the Campaign itself (you know, given I only had a few seconds to decide what to get the first time), it looks like there might have been an oversight. The Campaign refers to the red metal deck as "Grimaldi Metal," but the tiers refer to it as "Blackjack Metal". That might have caused some confusion.

[JacksandJokers]

I am not sure, but it seemed like there were only a very few Monti Carlo "Grimaldi" metal decks available, which were in some very limited tiers. By the time I figured out how limited they were and which options had them, they were all gone. I am sorry, but this was really confusing to sort through in a few seconds. I did manage to pick some I guess standard deck "Grimaldi" versions. Why were the "Grimaldi" metal deck versions so limited? This whole thing seems odd and unnecessary.

Hey Brad,

I dont think the "Grimaldi" edition was available in the metal cases.
As far as I can see the Metal set is the Riviera & Blackjack editions only, Grimaldi is only available in the "standard" tuck.

EDIT: I think Brownsl is correct.
I didn't realise the campaign page shows the Grimaldi deck as part of the 2 deck metal set, whereas the tier descriptions say it's the Riviera & Blackjack that are the 2 metal decks. However, I think the campaign page is probably more accurate and makes the most sense having the Blackjack deck as the "limited" non-metal deck.

[brownsl]

I am not sure, but it seemed like there were only a very few Monti Carlo "Grimaldi" metal decks available, which were in some very limited tiers. By the time I figured out how limited they were and which options had them, they were all gone. I am sorry, but this was really confusing to sort through in a few seconds. I did manage to pick some I guess standard deck "Grimaldi" versions. Why were the "Grimaldi" metal deck versions so limited? This whole thing seems odd and unnecessary.

I agree it was confusing, in my pledge tier I got a metal twin set. The reward description says

"Receive ONE Monte Carlo 'Riviera' Metal + ONE Monte Carlo 'Blackjack' Metal"

No where in the campaign description does it mention a Blackjack metal deck so I assume that it is actually a Grimaldi metal deck. The campaign description shows the twin set with a Grimaldi deck not a Blackjack metal deck. So, I think the reward descriptions for the twin sets are incorrect.

[Daisho]

I just edited my original post (about three of four up) with a screenshot, so any future reader should know that brownsl and J&J were not copying what I said, rather, we were all saying it at the same time.

[Bradius]

Well, I have four Kickstarter accounts and I used all four to get what I could. Even reading Brownsl's explanation, I am still utterly confused. If it is a Grimaldi instead of a Blackjack deck, that is confusing. It just seems to me if you have three types of decks, but only two in metal cases, then say it! I would think if there are three versions, then there would be an option for all three in metal cases and an option for all three in standard cases, and an option with all six versions as a set. And, I don't know not make this a crazy feeding frenzy. I am loaded up as best I could, but crazy confused until VXD can explain things better. I hate trying to guess at this.

[VXD]

Really sorry for the confusion...I cannot explain how I repeatedly mis-typed that. Strange.

[VXD]

There is no 'Blackjack Metal' planned (and that isn't some kind of stunt to pull out a Blackjack Metal later as an Add-On haha

[VXD]

Again, really sorry for the confusion / error.

[Bradius]

Thanks for clarifying that. Wow, that was confusing. I may need to sort out now some of my orders.

Note: Again, thanks for that clarification. I got what I wanted, but only one EB out of it. The EB discounts were nice, but I am just glad I got what I wanted.

I am happy again. Glad I had 4 Kickstarter accounts handy. I needed three of them to sort this out. Three accounts to basically pull together a "2 x Monte Carlo Twin Metal Set PLUS" piecemeal.

[veil]

There is no 'Blackjack Metal' planned (and that isn't some kind of stunt to pull out a Blackjack Metal later as an Add-On haha

Just curious why not? Based on the single deck pledges, the Blackjack version seems to be the most popular. Why not make a metal version of that deck as well to have 3+3?

[VXD]

Glad you got what you want so far Brad. You know I'll always sort you at (at terms) for whatever you want afterwards down the line anyway

Hey veil.....Well, generally because we have always done a double set for the metals, as is customary. But we did have an single black deck for our prototype I suppose (the Vertex Deck)....hmmm, I am now pondering haha

[PrincessTrouble]

I would like to add on (or pledge with a second account) a Blackjack tuck version. Is that possible?

[shermjack]

I am in, but bummed that I missed out on the EBs and any decent tiers due to the unfriendly launch time (midnight in Asia). Like Brad, I had to use multiple accounts to cobble together a full set to complete my VXD collection, but wish there was the option to add-on instead of having to use multiple accounts.

I would have thought that after all this time and experience, VXD would have been able to put together a simpler and smoother campaign with less convoluted tiers so that backers can easily pick and choose the decks they want.

[GandalfPC]

I would like to add on (or pledge with a second account) a Blackjack tuck version. Is that possible?

Yes, with a second account - just looked a few minutes ago and there are 6 blackjacks left

[VXD]

I can only say this - I will sort you out, so you get exactly what you want (at good prices)

[VXD]

Sherm...whatever you want..we will make it happen and at decent prices.

[veil]

Hey veil.....Well, generally because we have always done a double set for the metals, as is customary. But we did have an single black deck for our prototype I suppose (the Vertex Deck)....hmmm, I am now pondering haha

In case you're still thinking about this, I put up a poll in a Facebook group with quite a few of the campaign's backers asking them which deck they would get if they could only pick one and Blackjack won in a landslide: BJ - 37 GRM - 3 - RIV - 2. It just seems like a bit of a shame to make special metal versions of only two of the three decks and have the overwhelming favorite be the one that gets left out.

[aardvarkgod]

I managed to get the Twin set PLUS but was in such a hurry to sort through the tiers that I missed the EB option which was still available when I selected. I'm getting what I wanted, but that EB discount would have been real nice

[vasta41]

Hey veil.....Well, generally because we have always done a double set for the metals, as is customary. But we did have an single black deck for our prototype I suppose (the Vertex Deck)....hmmm, I am now pondering haha

In case you're still thinking about this, I put up a poll in a Facebook group with quite a few of the campaign's backers asking them which deck they would get if they could only pick one and Blackjack won in a landslide: BJ - 37 GRM - 3 - RIV - 2. It just seems like a bit of a shame to make special metal versions of only two of the three decks and have the overwhelming favorite be the one that gets left out.

The BJ deck is the best, IMO. I immediately pledged for the red EB when the campaign launched but once I reviewed the reward tiers I changed my pledge to BJ real fast.

[Cardamon]

Couple of sets are back up on ks.
At least you can get all 3 colors again!

[VXD]

Hi Guys & Gals

Thanks for the support so far!

Just to let you know, we increased available slots on some tiers, but now we can't increase any further, so the slots that are there are now the last ones for the tiers for this project.

Add-ons are still being worked on and will be available at some point next week.

Hope all are well. Thanks again.

[Cardamon]

Vxd just announced a 0 hour lotrek version of the blackjack deck. To be released at midnight cet. No price though. And not as an addon either. You just have to up your pledge and pm him

[Strag]

Yeah not sure what's going on, seems a bit odd to not use the add on function of KS.

[VXD]

Doing it old school....I'll be honest, I don't know how to get that function....does one have to apply (so I read somewhere)? Is it a BackerKit thing (we don't use BackerKit)?

[PrincessTrouble]

I wasn't able to increase my pledge but I added 39 in "bonus support" which to me means it's a bonus with nothing in return for that support. I think of it as a tip jar. Would have been much better to just use Kickstarter add-ons so we know what we're getting for that amount and you would know what we're adding on (how many and which variants).

[Cardamon]

I wasn't able to increase my pledge but I added 39 in "bonus support" which to me means it's a bonus with nothing in return for that support. I think of it as a tip jar. Would have been much better to just use Kickstarter add-ons so we know what we're getting for that amount and you would know what we're adding on (how many and which variants).

Did you contact the creator in a pm afterwards?
Apparently that was needed as well.

I hope we get told quickly if we made the cut or not. But yeah this seemed like a weird way of doing things.
Not adding the prices in an update rather slap it at the bottom of the story didn’t help. Most ppl didn’t get it at first and we’re waiting for the update.
Not to mention having to manually go through the backers and passing out the 499 normal and 299 steel cases.
Sounds real messy.