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Re: KWP Shorts - Alice In Wonderland

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Harvonsgard wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:28 am Jackson normally doesn't use USPCC for the tucks though anyways. Plus aren't Shorts printed by EPCC?
Did he switch for Peter Pan and Alice in Wonderland back to USPCC? Would be splendid news. Not that I mind other printers but I don't like bowed cards like the OZ deck.
Yeah they're both USPCC. Mostly because he isn't foiling either of them I think.
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Re: KWP Shorts - Alice In Wonderland

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Sherman Tank is USPCC
Peter Pan is USPCC
Alice In Wonderland will be Mr. Playing Card
A Pirates Carol will most likely be Mr. Playing Card as well.
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Jackson I'm curious, is there any relation between Mr. Playing Card and Shuffled Ink? On Google Maps they're like a mile apart :lol:
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Another Alice in Wonderland card from this morning's King's Wild Live. Jackson hopes to finish the deck this week.
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Queen of Diamonds. Such a sweet lady, which brings to mind a saying "You can't call your baby ugly."
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Ah All these illustrations definitely hits home - almost identical to the pictures found in the unabridged novel
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Re: KWP Shorts - Alice In Wonderland

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EvilDuncan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:23 am
laitostarr777 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:26 am This is interesting, although, doesn't usually most of story theme decks would have sideway opening tuckbox?
I don't know the reason for it, but the USPCC-printed decks are all top opening. I remember he had to alter the Peter Pan tuck recently for the same reason.
USPCC has done side opening tucks before. Some examples are the Espionage deck and the Black Book of Cards deck.
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Re: KWP Shorts - Alice In Wonderland

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alric wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:44 am
EvilDuncan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:23 am
laitostarr777 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:26 am This is interesting, although, doesn't usually most of story theme decks would have sideway opening tuckbox?
I don't know the reason for it, but the USPCC-printed decks are all top opening. I remember he had to alter the Peter Pan tuck recently for the same reason.
USPCC has done side opening tucks before. Some examples are the Espionage deck and the Black Book of Cards deck.
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Well, I’ll be! There is a USPCC deck with a sideway tuck opening. It is possible! Though that depends on Jackson’s design of the tuckbox for Alice in Wonderland
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First KWP deck in a while that I've liked a lot (although still not a deck you can really play cards with).

Does anyone know Mr. Playing Card as a manufacturer and if they are any good? Kind of a weird name for a card company and unusual to choose a name that has the same initials as an already established playing card manufacturer. Ah well.
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Strag wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:17 am Does anyone know Mr. Playing Card as a manufacturer and if they are any good? Kind of a weird name for a card company and unusual to choose a name that has the same initials as an already established playing card manufacturer. Ah well.
I've heard several good reviews of their overall feel, but I've also heard some people complain about them as well (I don't remember the specifics), so maybe it depends on the person.
I've spent way more than I care to admit on playing cards, but I'll still buy just about anything that Lorenzo, Jackson, or Gio make.
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I've heard the same. They don't fan as well as the top dogs but are overall good quality.
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The shorts deck "The Cut" was Mr. Playing Cards, I believe, and I think the new "Made in USA" deck was, too.
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EvilDuncan wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:19 am
Strag wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:17 am Does anyone know Mr. Playing Card as a manufacturer and if they are any good? Kind of a weird name for a card company and unusual to choose a name that has the same initials as an already established playing card manufacturer. Ah well.
I've heard several good reviews of their overall feel, but I've also heard some people complain about them as well (I don't remember the specifics), so maybe it depends on the person.
The Mr. Playing Card decks feel great overall. They handle for crap tho, and I have noticed that the edges of the decks made by them also arent finished as well as other decks. But at least the registrations are decent....
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macstrat wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:08 am
EvilDuncan wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:19 am
Strag wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:17 am Does anyone know Mr. Playing Card as a manufacturer and if they are any good? Kind of a weird name for a card company and unusual to choose a name that has the same initials as an already established playing card manufacturer. Ah well.
I've heard several good reviews of their overall feel, but I've also heard some people complain about them as well (I don't remember the specifics), so maybe it depends on the person.
The Mr. Playing Card decks feel great overall. They handle for crap tho, and I have noticed that the edges of the decks made by them also arent finished as well as other decks. But at least the registrations are decent....
That is... disappointing. For the price of KWP decks I would expect better personally.
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JacksonRobinson wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:47 am Spades.jpg

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Damn! All of these illustrations definitely hits home when i read the unabridged novel of Alice in Wonderland. See and recalled the exact illustrations used in the book
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These came out great
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Now that there is crying out for a set of posters based on the aces.
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Strag wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:17 am First KWP deck in a while that I've liked a lot (although still not a deck you can really play cards with).

Does anyone know Mr. Playing Card as a manufacturer and if they are any good? Kind of a weird name for a card company and unusual to choose a name that has the same initials as an already established playing card manufacturer. Ah well.
I've been pretty disappointed in the quality of the Mr Playing Card decks. The edges aren't finished well, they handle poorly and just generally feel "cheap". The designs are still great, but the card quality specifically has been poor for those decks. I get that he was getting behind, with all the delays from USPCC and the like, and needed a manufacturer who could deliver quickly, but I'd rather have the cards arrive late. I'm gonna cancel before the month for the Alice deck. Perhaps he'll have them reprinted next year by EPCC or USPCC, I'll buy it then if that happens.
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This is full on a collectors deck so handling isn't that important to most
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I think the reason he's been going with Mr. Playing Card recently is (in addition to them having quick turnaround) that shipping costs are just astronomical these days, not to mention the delays, when printing with EPCC in China. Also, due to the long shipping time, decks with foil like OZ are warping in the humid air (though Alice does not have foil on the cards, only the tuck).

Also, these decks are certainly made just for the art and collecting, so handling is probably secondary in Jackson's mind.

However, you'll be pleased to know Jackson mentioned in a stream recently that he plans to submit these to USPCC. They told him if he can have them submitted by the end of the week, they'll be ready for the November ship date.
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EvilDuncan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:24 amhe plans to submit these to USPCC.
This screams for a dead meme...
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Also, Jackson recolored the back designs depending on the edition (standard, limited, gilded), so now the cards are not all the same between all editions.
I've spent way more than I care to admit on playing cards, but I'll still buy just about anything that Lorenzo, Jackson, or Gio make.
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Hooray for recolours...
I quite liked the honesty of having all cards the same.
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I do agree that most recolors these days are unnecessary, but personally I think with Jacksons 3 tier model it adds some needed differentiation between the decks. I have seen some complain in the past that they were all the same cards every time with just a tuck swap and gilding.
I've spent way more than I care to admit on playing cards, but I'll still buy just about anything that Lorenzo, Jackson, or Gio make.
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As someone who gets all three versions every month (standard, limited, gilded), any extra differentiation in the actual cards between the versions is appreciated. I have just come to expect they are the same designs, just different packaging.
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Agreed, charging double or triple for a tuck swap and then gilding was a bit much. Especially when some of the tucks are quite plain, e.g. Gold Certificate etc.
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EvilDuncan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:44 am Also, Jackson recolored the back designs depending on the edition (standard, limited, gilded), so now the cards are not all the same between all editions.
Yea he said that he wanted the backs to be different (which I think is a good idea, but people will still be unhappy lol) and having the ability to meet the turnaround needed for that makes Mr.PC essential it sounds like
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Different colour backs are still the same as tuck swaps - cash grabs just with an added layer of deception. Marketing psychology at its best 👌🏿.
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Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:31 am Different colour backs are still the same as tuck swaps - cash grabs just with an added layer of deception. Marketing psychology at its best 👌🏿.
Hummm, don't know why you would say that, but different color backs are completely different than tuck swap... Different color back mean a new print run... As tuck swap is just the same print run..
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