Cardistry Playing Cards / KS

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[vasta41]

I have very mixed emotions about this deck. I love the 80s-90s baseball card theme- very Randy Butterfieldesque- but I hate how it's just called "Cardistry" with no other ties to a baseball card theme. I love the fun, custom courts but I hate all the negative space on them. I love USPCC printing but probably the main reason I'm out is $18 per deck, shipped? I don't care how many sticks of gum it comes with, no.

[MagikFingerz]

I have very mixed emotions about this deck. I love the 80s-90s baseball card theme- very Randy Butterfieldesque- but I hate how it's just called "Cardistry" with no other ties to a baseball card theme. I love the fun, custom courts but I hate all the negative space on them. I love USPCC printing but probably the main reason I'm out is $18 per deck, shipped? I don't care how many sticks of gum it comes with, no.

Get out of my head!

+1 to all of the above.

[Harvonsgard]

Call a deck Cardistry...

*plot twist* make it baseball themed...

Genius.

[Fes]

This confuses me too. Cardistry and Baseball.... I don't get it.

I love the approach to selling it though. They get a shined up bag that looks just like the tuck box, toss the tuck inside of it (extra protection) think what's missing? Gum, it's missing gum. So they toss a stick of gum in there! Of course then they're missing is a sticker of an orange slice or something. Never mind the sticker though don't need it, they have a half brick box! I think you're right Harvonsgard, Genius. Plot twist and all! Topping it all off, it's Lit!

What does any of it have to do with Cardistry? Nothing.
What does Cardistry have to do with Baseball? Nothing.

Face cards, As a baseball theme deck of cards, it's pretty good. I mean, that aint bad at all. As a baseball deck of playing cards themed after the movie Major League, it's pretty good. I mean, that aint bad at all. Face cards wise I mean. Card back wise, naa, missed the plate there. Baseball, the ball itself, has the sewing etc, didn't that come up in design thought for a card back that would work for cardistry too? I'm just curious because that makes more sense to me than this card back does. Yea, could be great but it's ended up a bit in left field for me because baseball and cardistry are different things and... yea, no need to explain it. Theme the thing baseball and let it be a baseball deck in my opinion. I do like the look of the tuck. Looks like an old pack of Tops trading cards, all waxy and ready to open.

[MagikFingerz]

What does any of it have to do with Cardistry? Nothing.
What does Cardistry have to do with Baseball? Nothing.

I'm not going to dispute the above statements, but I can kinda see where it's coming from.

Like, cardistry is the "sport" of playing cards, so this is a "sport-themed" deck using the traditional aesthetics of a different sport (baseball).

Biggest reach of the century? Maybe

[Harvonsgard]

Pretty big one indeed.

[Fes]

Anyone else wondering about the gum?

I mean, I would NEVER chomp on some gum that's tossed into a bag-o-deck tuck box holding. Buuuut, saying a person was to chomp on some of that stick of weird gum. Would it be the kind that breaks apart into those little fragments of pink pebbles before consolidating into a rubbery mass of "this was a bad idea"? OR Would it be the soft stuff that gets kind of melty (due to the higher moisture content) so when you open your Bag-o-deck holding shiny shine bag the gum is all over your tuck box? Of course there is that third version of gum stick that's covered in enough corn starch to make some proper stir fry too.

Why am I'm even thinking about this and speculating on the variety of gum stick that'll get stuck in the shiny shine bag-o-deck tuck holding? Hmmmm

I may have possibly accidentally backed this campaign, perhaps by chance.

[theCapraAegagrus]

Wh... What...?

[RichK]

Anyone else wondering about the gum?

I mean, I would NEVER chomp on some gum that's tossed into a bag-o-deck tuck box holding. Buuuut, saying a person was to chomp on some of that stick of weird gum. Would it be the kind that breaks apart into those little fragments of pink pebbles before consolidating into a rubbery mass of "this was a bad idea"? OR Would it be the soft stuff that gets kind of melty (due to the higher moisture content) so when you open your Bag-o-deck holding shiny shine bag the gum is all over your tuck box? Of course there is that third version of gum stick that's covered in enough corn starch to make some proper stir fry too.

Why am I'm even thinking about this and speculating on the variety of gum stick that'll get stuck in the shiny shine bag-o-deck tuck holding? Hmmmm

I may have possibly accidentally backed this campaign, perhaps by chance.

Bet it's the break into tiny pieces leaving you with a mouthful of spit hoping it becomes something to chew.

[oddsmaker003]

What does pies have to do with playing cards? What does fruit have to do with playing cards? To say you can’t put sports on playing card is Ridiculous.
That being said you all have brought up a point that we overlooked. The target audience for this deck may have been too narrow. Cardists make up such a small portion of the overall community that we should have went a different direction. We now realize this and we are in the process of correcting it. So expect another deck added to the campaign shortly. Thank you all for the comments and helping us to realize this came up short.
Doc

[Harvonsgard]

What does pies have to do with playing cards? What does fruit have to do with playing cards? To say you can’t put sports on playing card is Ridiculous.

Swing and a miss...

Nobody said it is ridiculous to put sports on a deck of cards. It's just non-sensical to make a baseball themed deck and then call it Cardistry Playing Cards.
That's like Anyone releasing a new A1 Souvenir deck called Souvenir Canada... with the flag of Argentina on it...

[NativeTongue]

What does pies have to do with playing cards? What does fruit have to do with playing cards? To say you can’t put sports on playing card is Ridiculous.

Swing and a miss...

Nobody said it is ridiculous to put sports on a deck of cards. It's just non-sensical to make a baseball themed deck and then call it Cardistry Playing Cards.
That's like Anyone releasing a new A1 Souvenir deck called Souvenir Canada... with the flag of Argentina on it...

That’s exactly what we’re addressing with the alternate deck for the campaign. An adjustment to the name as well as a few other things.
As for the questions about the gum, it’s individually wrapped by the manufacturer so as to not affect the deck in any way.

As always, thanks everyone for the valuable feedback. Much appreciated. The deck concept evolved over time and certain aspects were never brought in the new direction.

Thanks again, guys

[oddsmaker003]

If the deck is aimed at cardists ( people who do cardistry) it’s nonsensical to call it cardistry? What is a bat called that is used in baseball? A baseball bat?

[Harvonsgard]

As a cardist, yup, it is non-sensical to me.
Of course your perspective will be different because it is your project and you did what you did because it made sense to you - nothing wrong with that.
But ask yourself honestly, if Jackson Robinson would call his upcoming Lord of the Rings themed decks "Cardistry Playing Cards" because "they are aimed towards cardists" would it make sense to you if the artwork has nothing to do with cardistry?

[oddsmaker003]

Because I think you are onto something. How is this?

[vasta41]

MUCH better!

[NativeTongue]

Thanks again for honest feedback. The campaign is being reworked today to integrate the new design and more focused direction. (Along with an option for current backers)

[Fes]

TL:DR Yes, some fun and gum?

Yea it's better. I think it would be interesting to learn how the niche of cardistry became such a prevalent point in the deck prior to enlightenment by the many honorable and considerate members of UC. I love how focus clouds judgement and narrows possibility.

I'm thinking there was beer involved, lots of jokes and story telling with a few ideas kicked around. Perhaps a few second of dead air whilst folks pondered the impossible before someone suddenly said "Cardistry" slapped the table adding a hearty "I like it! Lets do that." then everyone was all, "Yea, that'll make a great inspired by the motion picture Major League deck of playing cards. Everyone will love it!" When phrased that way. . . . maybe it wasn't. Ah well, the world may never know. That bit aside (great bit though, really it writes itself) I know the real question on everyone's mind.

So I'm just going to cut to the chase, no beating around the base here, I'll just ask it. Anyone know what flavor the chewing gum is? Is it chewing yuck or chewing yum? Not that I would ever chomp on gum tossed in with a pack of playing cards. Just, you know, someone will probably at some point maybe do some chomping. Wouldn't want to blind side them with the unknown, the mystery block of flavor town. Some folks may not be ready take that trip down adventure avenue.

[NativeTongue]

TL:DR Yes, some fun and gum?

Yea it's better. I think it would be interesting to learn how the niche of cardistry became such a prevalent point in the deck prior to enlightenment by the many honorable and considerate members of UC. I love how focus clouds judgement and narrows possibility.

I'm thinking there was beer involved, lots of jokes and story telling with a few ideas kicked around. Perhaps a few second of dead air whilst folks pondered the impossible before someone suddenly said "Cardistry" slapped the table adding a hearty "I like it! Lets do that." then everyone was all, "Yea, that'll make a great inspired by the motion picture Major League deck of playing cards. Everyone will love it!" When phrased that way. . . . maybe it wasn't. Ah well, the world may never know. That bit aside (great bit though, really it writes itself) I know the real question on everyone's mind.

So I'm just going to cut to the chase, no beating around the base here, I'll just ask it. Anyone know what flavor the chewing gum is? Is it chewing yuck or chewing yum? Not that I would ever chomp on gum tossed in with a pack of playing cards. Just, you know, someone will probably at some point maybe do some chomping. Wouldn't want to blind side them with the unknown, the mystery block of flavor town. Some folks may not be ready take that trip down adventure avenue.

I get the impression you have nothing better to do with your time than try to make unconstructive comments on every post here in an attempt to try and make a few people you’ve never met laugh. By all means, constructive feedback is great and often necessary. However, your comments seem to have absolutely nothing to contribute to the conversation. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. It’s simple, really.

To everyone else, sincerely thank you for the feedback.

[vasta41]

$18 is still a lot of money for this deck but I think I'll pledge if that new tuck gets approved.

[Fes]

TL:DR Yes, some fun and gum?

I get the impression you have nothing better to do with your time than try to make unconstructive comments on every post here in an attempt to try and make a few people you’ve never met laugh. By all means, constructive feedback is great and often necessary. However, your comments seem to have absolutely nothing to contribute to the conversation. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. It’s simple, really.

To everyone else, sincerely thank you for the feedback.

Hi, you're currently on a forum where people talk about their opinions and share experiences dealing with playing cards. This aspect of the forum is where we talk about KS campaigns and new decks of playing cards. This isn't the drafting board and I am in fact reacting to your product campaign page. You do realize that right? I mean I can understand if you don't.(Lack of understanding can happen.) While you may wish it were so, you do not dictate what is and isn't in this conversation, nor do you choose who does and doesn't participate in this conversation. I do not have to pay to be part of this conversation either. Simply put this is NOT your campaign page, the one that you wrote about how Cardistry Playing Cards were inspired by the motion picture Major League. Reminder time?

I'm sure you are also aware that UC is pretty much a speak your mind forum. Well, I'm going to speak my mind and my mind says that is absolutely hilarious! If I did it (see above image) I'd hope you'd laugh and turn it into a good thing too. Don't worry, I'm a big boy it's okay to laugh at my mistakes. (I make loads of them) My ego can handle it and I'm going to laugh too! Anyway, these opinions are mine own. If you do not like my opinions, don't read them. It's simple, really.

Yes, you're right. I had nothing better to do than post my thoughts. (And to speculate on the flavor of the gum, expanding upon it in a way that suited my mood.) That's why I did and guess what, I will continue to do it. No you're absolutely not right. This (the campaign) makes me laugh and I'm sharing the fun that happens in my mind over it. Also, my constructive criticism seems to be what has effected you the most. (See what I quoted you saying directly to me? all personal like) Call it tough love, because you're learning a lot and I really do want you to succeed. Thanks not required, you're welcome anyway.

[NativeTongue]

The bubble gum is bubble gum flavor.

[MagikFingerz]

The bubble gum is bubble gum flavor.

And YOU'RE complaining about someone not contributing to the conversation?

[oddsmaker003]

$18 is still a lot of money for this deck but I think I'll pledge if that new tuck gets approved.

Vasta, we are trying to get the shipping prices down. Just curious ( because I almost never pay attention to how much I pay for shipping) what is the average on a US deck with shipping?

[oddsmaker003]

The bubble gum is bubble gum flavor.

And YOU'RE complaining about someone not contributing to the conversation?

It is bubble gum flavor.

[Harvonsgard]

The bubble gum is bubble gum flavor.

And YOU'RE complaining about someone not contributing to the conversation?

Well, dunno about Norway but here "bubble gum" is a certain flavour. It's artificial so, it's hard to describe the taste. It's a sweet flavour, not minty.

[NativeTongue]

Thank you, Harvonsgard.

The bubble gum is bubble gum flavor.

And YOU'RE complaining about someone not contributing to the conversation?

Yes, it’s true. “Bubble Gum” is indeed a flavor, and thus, a simple yet sufficient answer to Fes’ oh so pressing questions.

[vasta41]

$18 is still a lot of money for this deck but I think I'll pledge if that new tuck gets approved.

Vasta, we are trying to get the shipping prices down. Just curious ( because I almost never pay attention to how much I pay for shipping) what is the average on a US deck with shipping?

Within the US, 1 deck shipped (as of today) is about $3.50, not including packaging material. But if you're doing the thing where you raise shipping costs for US backers in an effort to bring shipping costs down for international backers then I'm all for it! But you should advertise that because that should attract more backers abroad.

[oddsmaker003]

We used Gamblers for fulfillment. This is the first time we didn’t do the fulfillment ourselves so I just put down exactly what gamblers rate was. I don’t think it’s right to inflate the price on one in order to decrease the price for the other.