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bdawg923 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:55 pm Meanwhile there's a brand new crypt deck for $240 buy it now
Interesting experiment that Lotrek's setup. Even on Ebay they are still respecting the rules he setup, for now. The most revealed so far is just part of the inner tuck . And even then, it's only enough to show the title and not the whole tuck.

As someone who's fascinated by human behavior, it's very cool to see just how long the rules hold up and who, if any, will be the first to actually show the cards. Especially in the age of social media and things going viral!

There's a marketing/psych/mass comm journal paper here to be written if anyone is up for these kind of things.
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Eric Lee wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:25 pm
bdawg923 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:55 pm Meanwhile there's a brand new crypt deck for $240 buy it now
Interesting experiment that Lotrek's setup. Even on Ebay they are still respecting the rules he setup, for now. The most revealed so far is just part of the inner tuck . And even then, it's only enough to show the title and not the whole tuck.

As someone who's fascinated by human behavior, it's very cool to see just how long the rules hold up and who, if any, will be the first to actually show the cards. Especially in the age of social media and things going viral!

There's a marketing/psych/mass comm journal paper here to be written if anyone is up for these kind of things.
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I'm still figuring how to get into the inner tuck without breaking the seal, as Brad alleges.
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You can open the inner tuck flap with a flat long object like a letter opener or alike 🤷🏿‍♀️.
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portcullis wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:40 am I'm still figuring how to get into the inner tuck without breaking the seal, as Brad alleges.
I haven't tried yet, but it looks like just a basic sticker, right? Maybe heat it up with a hair dryer
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Just have your dry cleaner run it through their equipment. (Actually, no. I am just kidding. I have no idea what would happen, but don't try this.).

I suggest you take a more narrow path forward and look for a side entrance.

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Thanks for the meme theCapraAegagrus. I have not read the book or seen the movie, so I had fun looking up the reference. :lol:
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FYI, I have decided to let mine go in the Buy/sell section of the UC. I will take the highest offer by Sunday @ Midnight EST. Contact me through PM or that thread...
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portcullis wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:40 am I'm still figuring how to get into the inner tuck without breaking the seal, as Brad alleges.
As Harvonsgard said a sharp letter opener can work. But if you want to be careful, a blade or box opener works. The sticker isn't very sticky and comes off very well without leaving a mark.

Trust me, it's worth it. Will say more with my review of the deck once I've had time to collect my thoughts.
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Crypt arrived. After prying it open, the smell of decay filled the air. Carefully removed the shroud to find the remains. There must be a mistake! Why was this buried here? Transformed by light. Beyond belief. How was this done? The mystery will not be solved by my amateur eyes.

Congrats Lotrek. Well done.
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After I've managed to scratch out some time, here's my thoughts on this Crypt. Glad I took time to reread the posts and open the deck a few more times to fully appreciate what Lotrek’s done.
TL;DR (also spoiler free): theme and concept is amazing. Lotrek’s technical wizardry with hot foil keeps pushing the envelope. To get full experience, open the seal. Right now, it’s also my DOTY 2020.

Longer review with some possible spoilers, but nothing that’s not already been discussed before.
First off, Decknowledgy hit the nail exactly on the head with his review in this part of the thread. Spot on what Lotrek was trying to capture.

Secondly, it's more than just the deck of cards. It’s the entire experience of buying and opening the deck which Lotrek has created. From making this a true mystery deck to the experience which captures the theme so very well.

It starts with the bland plain tuck box, which has been revealed. It’s like the earth one has to dig through to get to the crypt.
Once the crypt has been brought out, you actually have 2 ways to get into it. Break in directly or go through the side like a tomb raider :D I'm glad Lotrek gave us a chance to see the deck without opening the seal.

I went in like a tomb raider first. But I'm so very glad that, after rereading the threads, I decided to go in directly by prying open the seal with a blade. Opened easily with no damage to seal or box (if you're careful). Opening it as intended by Lotrek, you'll be rewarded with a tasty glimpse of the treasure waiting within. With the various layers Lotrek has put into the deck, he teases you while heightening the expectation of what lies inside. When you get to the final layer and hold the actual deck, you may either be wondering if it's worth all the hype or excited to see what Lotrek’s done.

The back is yet another Lotrek masterpiece. The technical wizardry involved with hot foils to create the back design breaks new ground. The amount of detail packed into that small rectangle card is amazing. It is like Arabesque in execution, but yet so different in design. I would love to know what Harvonsgard thought Lotrek did and was proven correct.

The face cards are something else. This is the longest I've ever spent admiring the details on the face cards. Those are, by far, one of the best, if not the best, face cards I've seen from a non-transformation deck.

The courts, I can see why some say are a let down. Compared with Arabesque, Silk and even Damask, this is the only part I find lacking, relative to the rest of the deck . Arabesque and Silk's courts are my top 3, along with the Venexiana series. MInd you, I'm comparing this with Lotrek’s past work here. If this is your first or you're a more recent Lotrek collector, this shouldn't be a problem for you.

So was it worth the hype? Well, as other have said and I mentioned at the beginning, it's not just about the cards.

He's brought the whole concept of a deck theme to a new meta level. For Crypt, you aren't paying $100 just for a deck of cards. It's a grand social experiment of a few hundred people keeping a secret in the age of social media; while keeping the mystery for you to enjoy the experience of opening a crypt to find the treasure. That's what you're paying for as well. The whole experience.

Is it worth the $? Yes. No deck I’ve seen has ever made the opening a deck of cards to be an experience in itself. It’s like buying luxury goods (not that I’ve ever had the chance to buy luxury stuff but from what I see and read). It’s not just buying the actual product but the whole experience of making a luxurious purchase. Lotrek has managed to capture that experience, IMHO.

Definitely DOTY 2020. No one will come close to bringing the whole theme and concept of a deck of cards to this new level that Lotrek has done. I can only imagine JR and Alex Chin coming close to matching Lotrek in terms and theme and concept.
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Thanks for the review Eric, I agree that this deck is phenomenal. I am also quite surprised that no one has posted online pictures of the cards. At least, as far as I know.
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After having Crypt for some weeks now, I'm still ambiguous on this deck.
When it comes to magic there are two kind of tricks: the ones that impress you less, after you know how they are done and then there're these tricks, which impress you even more after you know how they are done.
This deck pulls it of for me to be both.
Lotrék is a wizard indeed. For this deck he used smoke (mystery sale + secrecy hype) and mirrors (hot foil insanity/mastery) to hide two mayor dropped balls (inner tuck and courts). The back could be more impressive as well. For me the highlight of the deck are clearly the jokers.
I still like this deck pretty much and yah, no doubt I'll be DOTY2020 (or not? Looking at you NPCCD2020!?) but for me more so because of a lack of competition. Let's put it that way, this deck is Usain Bolt winning another gold medal, but not with breaking his own world record.
Maybe Lotrék decks are like 🌿 to me... they build up a tolerance (to be impressed) the more you're used to them.

If you ever do a mystery deck again Lotrék, make it your challenge to impress collectors that have all your decks. Ask yourself, what would impress somebody that knows all of your prior work.
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I'm sad. :-( Still no delivery of mine here in Australia, but dispatched June 10. Trying not to view any spoilers is difficult! Every day brings new hope...
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I feel you, we're in the same boat.

And I'm like closest to Greece at 700km, you're on the other side of the world.

Patience, patience...
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grantt wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 am I'm sad. :-( Still no delivery of mine here in Australia, but dispatched June 10. Trying not to view any spoilers is difficult! Every day brings new hope...
I got mine Monday last week, (deck 457, beachside Melbourne) so I hope it's not too far away for you.
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grantt wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 am I'm sad. :-( Still no delivery of mine here in Australia, but dispatched June 10. Trying not to view any spoilers is difficult! Every day brings new hope...
Yes, me neither.

Every time someone posts here, there's the indecision between not wanting it to be spoiled, and wanting to know what's going on.

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Both my decks were mailed the same day from Greece on June 10, but were mailed separately. I got my 2nd deck (Latebird purchase #486) on June 24. My 1st deck still has not arrived, seems to be stuck in Chicago at the moment. Waiting to get both of them so I can open the higher number. It’s so hard knowing I have one in hand to look at 😝. But in the immortal words of Chief Dan George in The Outlaw Josey Wales I shall “Endeavor to Persevere”
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You can safely open it without permanently breaking open anything, thanks to the way Lotrek designed it. There's no seal or cello that will prevent one from accessing the cards. Go Tomb Raider for the 1st deck, then go in the way Lotrek designed it with the 2nd deck if you must. Unless of course you still have the deck in the bubble wrap envelope... :? :D
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Yes, I’ve read the posts and understand how to do that. I’ve just been waiting til both decks come in to let myself open one of them the way that it should be, not from the top - I want to get the full effect of The Crypt. It’s not just about the cards, it’s about the ethereal feeling of what Mr. Lotrek is presenting. The totality of the experience: opening the tuck, perusing the deck, noticing the intricacies, feeling the handling, it all adds to the experience. I want the whole enchilada - not just a sneaky peek (I also want my extra deck as insurance, haha). I must say, the anticipation is a large part of it also. So I’ll wait (im)patiently until I have both decks in hand to have my little moment. Hopefully soon, sigh...
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Received my two decks yesterday ( decks #2 and #3, which was an awesome surprise :D ). My girlfriend and I sat down together to open it so we could see how our reactions to the deck differed. We are both big fans of this deck, to the point where she might consider this the best Oath Playing Cards deck we own. Personally I still think I prefer the gold arabesque or blue silk but I am definitely not underwhelmed by Crypt. I keep finding myself going back to the shelf to open the deck back up and take another look or fan it out again. It really is a very beautiful work of art and definitely one of the most fun deck openings I have been able to do.
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I still didn't get any deck here in Italy.
I'm so worried and a bit sad. Hope they arrive soon :/
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Curt wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:28 pm Received my two decks yesterday ( decks #2 and #3, which was an awesome surprise :D ). My girlfriend and I sat down together to open it so we could see how our reactions to the deck differed. We are both big fans of this deck, to the point where she might consider this the best Oath Playing Cards deck we own. Personally I still think I prefer the gold arabesque or blue silk but I am definitely not underwhelmed by Crypt. I keep finding myself going back to the shelf to open the deck back up and take another look or fan it out again. It really is a very beautiful work of art and definitely one of the most fun deck openings I have been able to do.
I wish my girlfriend took an interest in playing cards as it would be nice to be able to share those moments. I think the biggest problem is the fact that she doesn't actually exist.
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Got mine today and I'm impressed. Opening the Crypt was a wonderful experience! I was only surprised that the deck itself was a bit bowed but that's correctable. I'm pretty sure I will visit the Crypt often to appreciate the looks! :)
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TheWall wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:14 am Both my decks were mailed the same day from Greece on June 10, but were mailed separately. I got my 2nd deck (Latebird purchase #486) on June 24. My 1st deck still has not arrived, seems to be stuck in Chicago at the moment. Waiting to get both of them so I can open the higher number. It’s so hard knowing I have one in hand to look at 😝. But in the immortal words of Chief Dan George in The Outlaw Josey Wales I shall “Endeavor to Persevere”
What is happening at the Chicago USPS hub? I have had more than a few packages stuck there for ages...
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Magic Tapp wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:02 am
What is happening at the Chicago USPS hub? I have had more than a few packages stuck there for ages...
Yeah, Italy which is next to Greece got the first packages today!!!
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And finally i just got my 6 Crypt decks here in Italy!!!
I've been a bit worried in the last days because i was keeping reading all the posts by people receiving the decks, and i still was empty hands.
However the long waiting has been very well paid as i opened one deck and i've been stunned by this gargeous masterclass, like a sudden ray of light in the dark!
Someone says "Beauty will save the world", and Lotrek is giving Beauty to us all every time he turns his genius into Art.
Thank you.
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Mine finally arrived today too... wow, does not disappoint. :-) Gorgeous.
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grantt wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:26 am Mine finally arrived today too... wow, does not disappoint. :-) Gorgeous.
I'm pleased.
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I was late to the party and luckily Lotrek had an extra I could purchase. It just arrived today and I LOVE this deck. The whole thing is amazing, easily in my top 3 decks ever. The color palate of the cards is gorgeous. And the detail... my lord the detail. I showed my family who aren't card lovers and they were floored. My expectations were super high with the anticipation and reading the "reviews" on here and it still blew me away! I also couldn't/wouldn't ever crack that seal and I went in through the top because the Tuck is super clean. And once you open the tuck and have that extra... that extra little bit before seeing the full cards, what a great touch. Its Art. And I love it. Deck of the year for me for sure and its not close.

I am still super shook and excited so if I posted a spoiler I am sorry. I just wanted to add to the overwhelming praise of this deck!
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