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I support @conturbia's decision to print the LTD edition with WJPC.

Ok. What we have from the creator's perspective? Backers ask you to print 1000 decks with USPCC, but numbers are not quite there. You should produce 700 more decks and stay without any profit after KS.

For backers: Order those 700 overrun decks ON KICKSTARTER, and @conturbia will be happy to use USPCC. EASY!

In terms of quality and handling, WJPC is now third after USPCC and Cartamundi. Chinese printed EPCC decks are much worse and look so cheap!

Anyway, most of you are buying Lotrek, and you know that his deck's handling even worse than NPCC. So what is the reason for all this "I-need-good-handling" drama? :lol: Trust me, in a blind test, any recent WJPC deck is almost USPCC quality.
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Harvonsgard wrote:
Decknowledgy wrote:If it's art precision: WJPC ≒ NPCC ≒ EPCC > Cartamundi ≧ USPCC.
Cartamundi just little better/equal to USPC?

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Cartamundi suffers from the True Linen B9 finish that makes artwork look kinda fuzzy on the edges (see Jocu's decks for reference), hard to be printed crisp, plus standard Cartamundi colors tend to be muted. Just compare the mustard yellow on Cartamundi with other brands on the court cards.

USPCC, registration is the major issue, then the flaky MetalLuxe.
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Re: Florentia Nova - Florentia Antica

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montenzi wrote:Anyway, most of you are buying Lotrek, and you know that his deck's handling even worse than NPCC.
LOL, true that for his past decks. Icons Sacred is the worst handling deck I own - and I own Cartamundi, Mexiko and Chinese printed decks :lol: .
Decknowledgy wrote:Cartamundi suffers from the True Linen B9 finish that makes artwork look kinda fuzzy on the edges (see Jocu's decks for reference), hard to be printed crisp, plus standard Cartamundi colors tend to be muted. Just compare the mustard yellow on Cartamundi with other brands on the court cards.
The linen structure is actually the reason I don't like B9 decks. Since I gave away my House of the Rising Spade. Fillide, Axolotl and Blue Cohorts are the only B9 decks I own.
In my mind I still put Cartamundi further above USPC (registration tends to irk me way more) since C9, but that was unfortunately just a tiny fraction of their decks... R.I.P. C9...
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Decknowledgy wrote:Folks should really ask themselves what is the purpose for backing this project... Is is for gameplay? Or is it for the art?
Both. If it were gameplay, I'd be all-in on the players. Art, all-in on the prints.
For me, it's always been about both. Bicycles and framed paintings do just fine on their own, but custom cards are playable, usable beauty we can interact with in ways that we don't with others artistic mediums and that strikes a much deeper chord than a single-faceted trinket.
montenzi wrote: In terms of quality and handling, WJPC is now third after USPCC and Cartamundi. Chinese printed EPCC decks are much worse and look so cheap!
COULD NOT AGREE MORE ABOUT EPCC. The look is fine to my eyes, but the handling leaves MUCH to be desired.
Anyway, most of you are buying Lotrek, and you know that his deck's handling even worse than NPCC. So what is the reason for all this "I-need-good-handling" drama? :lol: Trust me, in a blind test, any recent WJPC deck is almost USPCC quality.
lol I remember the first time I unwrapped a Lotrek deck, I seriously thought the seller had sold me a knock-off version. If you go back through my post history, I'm pretty sure I posted on the Arabesque thread asking if the deck was plastic :lol:

But I disagree on WJPC vs USPCC handling. I perform magic, so on the off-chance you don't, maybe we have different priorities with regards to how a deck handles, but it's night and day to me. With different printers, I always play with riffle shuffles, passes, table cuts and deals to see if it holds up to USPCC and WJPC has not for me. It could be that I learned all my stuff playing with bikes and bees and that my fingers are touch-sensitive to those, but WJPC it just doesn't cut it imo.
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PassioneTeam just posted an update: All decks will be printed by USPCC.
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Dear friends, I'd like to tell you that now ALL decks will be printed by USPCC.
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gacktvam wrote:I'm sorry to say that I just dropped my pledge because of the choice of printer...
You can come back now :)
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vasta41 wrote:I understand. I wish that were not the case because I really don't want these printed with WJPC. But just like with the Liberty and Justice decks, I guess it's better the cards exist printed by a lesser printer than not exist at all.
Worry not! ALL decks will be printed by USPCC. No features have been ditched. Its' just like the original 30k goal has been hit.
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PiazzaDelivery wrote:24k for USPCC everything, and last I checked, they're at 21.2k with 6 days left.

I really really really hope they make it.
We made it, so, don't go away, you'll have USPCC decks :)
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Awesome news. Great to have everything from USPC.
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Conturbia wrote:Dear friends, I'd like to tell you that now ALL decks will be printed by USPCC.
:ugdance: :ugdance: :ugdance: :ugdance: :ugdance:

Now I have to add on that players deck!
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Geez Vasta, I thought you'd add that right when announced since it was the only USPCC deck. :D

I added it too since I like the Passione courts.
Move on, nothing to see here.
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Yes, Florentia PE has been presented as printed by USPCC from day 1. it was the option for the die-hard USPCC enthusiasts who need that specific feeling. Anyway, now all the decks will be printed by USPCC so, that doesn't matter anymore. :)
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Thanks for that! I'm back in the game!
Conturbia wrote:Yes, Florentia PE has been presented as printed by USPCC from day 1. it was the option for the die-hard USPCC enthusiasts who need that specific feeling. Anyway, now all the decks will be printed by USPCC so, that doesn't matter anymore. :)
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the campaign is over, I'd like to thank all of our supporters :)
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I like deck, but orange color aren't "historical". How about using more authentic colors?
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3rd dominion wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:32 pm I like deck, but orange color aren't "historical". How about using more authentic colors?
I believe the orange is taken from the rose window of the Florence Cathedral which is in fact surrounded by a large a orange/copper/amber ring. If I'm not mistaken, said cathedral was completed in the 15th century, which I would definitely deem "historical".

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What colors would you have suggested?
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Conturbia wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:53 am
gacktvam wrote:I'm sorry to say that I just dropped my pledge because of the choice of printer...
You can come back now :)

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montenzi wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 6:18 pm I support @conturbia's decision to print the LTD edition with WJPC.

Ok. What we have from the creator's perspective? Backers ask you to print 1000 decks with USPCC, but numbers are not quite there. You should produce 700 more decks and stay without any profit after KS.

For backers: Order those 700 overrun decks ON KICKSTARTER, and @conturbia will be happy to use USPCC. EASY!

In terms of quality and handling, WJPC is now third after USPCC and Cartamundi. Chinese printed EPCC decks are much worse and look so cheap!

Anyway, most of you are buying Lotrek, and you know that his deck's handling even worse than NPCC. So what is the reason for all this "I-need-good-handling" drama? :lol: Trust me, in a blind test, any recent WJPC deck is almost USPCC quality.
I want to thank Montenzi for sharing his point. He is a creator so... he knows. Ultimately, the true power is in the hands of backers, they can decide which projects they want to support.
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I hope you are among the backers of Florentia Aeterna...
Here you can see the finished product (the box).
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oh man i cant wait for these! this was one of the first decks that got me down the collecting rabbit whole when i saw it on KS. Cant wait for the uncuts to frame!!
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Great blind embossing! Awesome work!
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I noticed that the Roman numerals are additive. IIII instead of IV and VIIII instead of IX. Nice. I second Jackson's comment on the great blind embossing. This tuck case is going to be special indeed.
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JacksonRobinson wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:40 am Great blind embossing! Awesome work!
Thank you Jackson! :mrgreen:
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Bradius wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:04 am I noticed that the Roman numerals are additive. IIII instead of IV and VIIII instead of IX. Nice. I second Jackson's comment on the great blind embossing. This tuck case is going to be special indeed.
Thank you, Bradius! :)
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I just saw the first Florentia Antica and Florentia Nova boxes. Oh, they are perfect... GW did a superb job here.
The images are shot with a smartphone and sent through WA, not retouched in any way but.. OMG... I'm speechless..
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cant wait for these! the tucks look so so good!
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Antica is a highlight for sure. Nova looks a but less shiny than I would have expected from the renders? Still excited for the finished product.

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Was unable to back at the time of the KS. Any word on where and when will these be available?
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The last update was USPC was delayed till next week hopefully. Then ship to GW for assembly and distribution so i would think Early November when they ship to backers. I did ask if they will have extras on their site cause i would like to grab a few more as well but no response as of yet.
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