Dance of death

akicer · Unread post by **akicer** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:47 pm

The creator actually replied in the comment section that he will send extra cards afterwards. Not a good fix but still a fix...

As a backer I'm not very happy about this happening but if I open the deck I have the missing card to use, if I do not open the deck who knows there's bug in it lol

What I concern more is that I still not getting my tracking number....

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:28 pm

I know he did but I disagree that this is an acceptable solution. It also wasn't entirely clear if that was only for already sent decks or for all decks.

You haven't received tracking because he paused shipping whilst printing the missing cards. Again, wasn't super clear on that part.

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Magic Tapp · Unread post by **Magic Tapp** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:07 pm

akicer wrote:As a backer I'm not very happy about this happening but if I open the deck I have the missing card to use, if I do not open the deck who knows there's bug in it lol

A classic case of Scrödinger’s deck [emoji4]

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:19 pm

No response here and silent on KS comments and DMs despite logging in to KS within last few days. Starting to be concerning.

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brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:42 pm

Very disappointing. I suspect that the backers that did not get decks in the first round, albeit most of them messed up, will not be getting anything. It seems the mix up was very significant, he has not found a way to fulfill pledges without losing money, and therefore he is not going to do anything to make it right. It appears that the mistakes should have been caught when he received the proofs.

Unread post by **rousselle** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:43 am

I'm not inclined to automatically assume he's going to give up on fulfillment. I'm adopting a wait and see attitude at the moment.Too early to jump to conclusions.

Right? Right?

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:55 am

rousselle wrote:I'm not inclined to automatically assume he's going to give up on fulfillment. I'm adopting a wait and see attitude at the moment.Too early to jump to conclusions.

Right? Right?

Agree that it is early, just warning signs at this moment, but they are definitely there.

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brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:30 am

Strag wrote:
rousselle wrote:I'm not inclined to automatically assume he's going to give up on fulfillment. I'm adopting a wait and see attitude at the moment.Too early to jump to conclusions.

Right? Right?
Agree that it is early, just warning signs at this moment, but they are definitely there.

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+1. The lack of communication is very concerning. Maybe he is out of town for work or vacation.

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:38 am

Except he logged into KS on the 18th and made no replies.

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Eric Lee · Unread post by **Eric Lee** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 pm

This is only his 2nd deck. I believe he took on more than he should by releasing the 2nd and 3rd decks at the same time along with other addons. An error of this magnitude can be overwhelming to a KS rookie to handle the logistics and inserting the missing cards.

Let's see how he handles it and if he makes good on all the decks.

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:42 am

Sad to say this is really not looking good. He has not posted an update or responded to any PMs or comments in about a month, but has logged in at least twice since then, once on the 18th and once on the28th of November.

Has not been on here since 22nd October but certainly was very active when trying to get funded for his KS.

I really hope I’m wrong but I’ve seen these warning signs before (Natalia Silva anyone?) and it really is looking like it won’t have a good result.

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Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am

Finally heard back via PM on KS. He now says he has no money. Doesn't look good for this to get done at all.

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Outsider · Unread post by **Outsider** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:18 am

This is a real shame. I got the two decks I pledged for this campaign, but I have not opened them. The deck error is one thing, but it's really too bad that a promising new creator has screwed the pooch on this.

shkorc · Unread post by **shkorc** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:28 am

Haven't received any of the three decks.

He got money from 252 people ffs, wth happened with it?

brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:31 am

This would be my first KS project I backed that I did not get the reward. Very disappointing as it was very promising and his engagement in UC was nice. Do I just chalk it up as lost money or can I dispute it with CC company. Curious what others have done that have experienced this.

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:34 am

Doesn't hurt to dispute but probably has been too long since funded. Depends on your CC company.

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robcan0630 · Unread post by **robcan0630** » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:26 pm

I did receive all 3 decks, so I don’t think it was a scam. However, it does appear to have been poorly managed and/or too much for the number of people involved. Regardless, I wish it had gone better for everyone (backers and creator) as I really like the triptych aspect and the art.

Unread post by **rousselle** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:04 am

Strag wrote:Finally heard back via PM on KS. He now says he has no money. Doesn't look good for this to get done at all.

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Did he give any indication of how he plans to proceed, or if he was giving up, or what?

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:02 am

Nothing else whatsoever. The fact that he didn't post an update is probably not a good sign though.

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shkorc · Unread post by **shkorc** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:03 am

I'd gladly take the screwed up decks over not getting anything. His KS career is finished, that's for sure.

akicer · Unread post by **akicer** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:32 pm

guys - wanna hear your thoughts - does this guy qualify out black list now?

Unread post by **montenzi** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:49 pm

Don't be Natalia Silva 2.0! You can still order 200 decks at Cartamundi with replacement cards (digitally printed). If decks are in the US, ask Gamblers Warehouse to pack decks again or send replacement cards separately. You will end up with trash decks after Kickstarter and will not be able to sell them. But it's business.

p.s. I don't know what I would have done in this situation. But first of all, you HAVE TO provide a plan to your backers.

brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:16 pm

Both decks, v2 and v3, are available at triponmagic. I wonder if they are fixed decks?

chicken_ql · Unread post by **chicken_ql** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:05 pm

I received my decks today, not sure if they're fixed cuz im probably not going to open them

brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:28 pm

Maybe I will get mine. If I do I will be opening them.

Unread post by **rousselle** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:04 am

Oooh! If decks are making their way into backers hands, that's really good news!

I'll be opening mine, because I want to see this laid out with the grand illustration!

brownsl · Unread post by **brownsl** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:33 pm

I couldn't resist and I bought a deck of each from Triponmagic even though I backed the KS campaign. I was curious if they have been fixed. I opened them both and they are both defective. Oh well, so much for him fixing them.

Unread post by **montenzi** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:44 pm

brownsl wrote:I couldn't resist and I bought a deck of each from Triponmagic even though I backed the KS campaign. I was curious if they have been fixed. I opened them both and they are both defective. Oh well, so much for him fixing them.

Well. I hoped I was wrong with "have to" words in my last comment. But it's not funny as both decks are available on Murphy's Magic. It's now a question if they sell the same defective version here:

https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=65481
https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=65482

Eric Lee · Unread post by **Eric Lee** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:30 am

What the ….? I saw PCD selling V2 and V3 as their new arrivals. Does that mean he's actually fulfilling the KS orders? Where would Will get those decks otherwise?

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Kage X · Unread post by **Kage X** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:57 am

I got my v2 and v3 close to 2 months ago. Haven’t opened them but pretty sure they’re the error decks

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