The Poker Deck of the Drowning World by Kahn & Selesnick

[Decknowledgy]

Love the artwork!! But they only ship within US... so international backers can't and don't exist in this project... Can anyone in the States help me back the project?

Poker edition: indexes on the top right
Fine Art edition: no indexes, squared corners







Left: Fine Art Edition / Right: Poker Edition


Fine Art Edition: No indexes, squared corners


Fine Art backs

[shimmering]

Wow, I had seen pictures of the original printing of this deck. Didn't think it would be reprinted. But US shipping only, what a downer.

[theCapraAegagrus]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

[Decknowledgy]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

Welp, it's art based, what were you expecting?

[theCapraAegagrus]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

Welp, it's art based, what were you expecting?

Considering that it has "Poker Deck" in its title, I was expecting a deck that I can actually play poker with...

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

[Decknowledgy]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

Welp, it's art based, what were you expecting?

Considering that it has "Poker Deck" in its title, I was expecting a deck that I can actually play poker with...

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

Guess that makes sense, and the fact that you can only fan from right to left to see the indexes... (I just gave you a lead to weigh in on more Thanos smash )

[ICantShuffle]

Hej gaiz, I've got an idea.

Let's cut down more trees, make more paper, and ink, then print a deck of playing cards (using fossil fuel energy in a factory) and coat them in a polymer (hydrocarbon) that we will then ship, possibly around the world, to protest industry and the destruction of the environment.

Yeah, modern environmentalism, global warming, make sure you tithe pay tuition to your local church research university, gaiz.

I do really like the artwork, though, and I hope it funds for that reason.

[STLBluesNut]

I haven't read the KS campaign but if there is really some environmental bs in there then I am definitely out. The art is kind of ice though.

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[ICantShuffle]

The campaign page is mostly self-promotion for the design studio (as to be expected), but the deck is a panorama of how industrial pollution is melting polar ice caps. There's also a rhyme/limerick in the second panel that basically says "smoke from factories is melting the poles," hence the "drowning world." They mention that they wanted to reprint the design because they feel it is relevant today because of our environmental crisis. It's not smeared all over the campaign page, because it is all over the deck.

However, I do like the artist's style and I like all of the photographs they took of people enacting panels from the artwork, even if I don't agree (entirely) with the message. What I find truly ironic is that people are protesting the use of modern manufacturing with.... the use of... modern manufacturing?

[vasta41]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

And post #2499 of negativity



Sorry, had to.

[ICantShuffle]

*ahem*

I hereby lodge my petition of defense on behalf of the kindly Sir TwoPiece.

I submit to your grace's consideration that in his outwardly negative demeanor, he actually spreads positivity and joy throughout the community. I, for one, have been known to chuckle at his humorous, if not sometimes uncouth, garish, and generally unrefined lambasting of crowdfunded playing card projects.

Thank you.

[Bradius]

Yeah, and he is unashamedly in love with JR (most of the time).

Personally, I find this deck a bit not to my taste. However, it is so bizarre, I kind of like it. If it wasn't so darn expensive.

I am interested at what PipChick thinks of this deck. This art is so out there, she might really dig this stuff.

If any out of the country folks really want this, PM me and I probably could back it for you. You will need to pay my actual shipping and front me the KS funds. Still, glad to help out a few desperate for this ... piece of art?

[Decknowledgy]

If any out of the country folks really want this, PM me and I probably could back it for you. You will need to pay my actual shipping and front me the KS funds. Still, glad to help out a few desperate for this ... piece of art?

I'm definitely in for one deck, but through a few message exchange with the creator, it seems that there might be chance international options may show up during the campaign. If not, they set to sell what they've produced on their website, accordingly, which is based in UK. Give them some time to work out the solutions; if not, I'll could ask you to pick one up for me?

[Bradius]

I just realized it is only $25 each shipped. It is just odd enough to interest me, so I am in.

If he doesn't change his mind on international shipping, drop me a line as I ordered two. I can always use my other Kickstarter accounts if needed.

[hsbc]

I love the art on this I'm in for sure

[theCapraAegagrus]

These are awful and unplayable. Gtfo.

Post #2500.

And post #2499 of reality



Sorry, had to.

Fixed.

[theCapraAegagrus]

*ahem*

I hereby lodge my petition of defense on behalf of the kindly Sir TwoPiece.

I submit to your grace's consideration that in his outwardly negative demeanor, he actually spreads positivity and joy throughout the community. I, for one, have been known to chuckle at his humorous, if not sometimes uncouth, garish, and generally unrefined lambasting of crowdfunded playing card projects.

Thank you.

This is probably the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.

[daddobrendt]

$20 EB, $25/deck afterwards for essentially a reprinted deck AND EPCC is a hard pass for me. Art is interesting, but price is just short of outrageous.

[Decknowledgy]

The Poker edition is now offered international shipping to some countries, mainly European countries. The Fine Art edition is still limited to shipping within US.

Confirmed by the designer via email telling me about shipping to UK:

No just buy now from the campaign , one deck wikl be cheaper as it’s still at the best price
We will be shipping a big lot to the isle of jersey and they then shipping out to us buyers quickly
So it’s safe and sane
Cheers

Nicholas

[Adonael]

Considering that it has "Poker Deck" in its title, I was expecting a deck that I can actually play poker with...

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

I collect decks for their artwork/design, I certainly don't see how all of them need to be as functional as a standard deck, that would be incredibly limited for starters. Playing card deck, poker deck, deck of cards etc, it's all the same thing and you know that, sometimes nitpicking is just nitpicking for the sake of it as exemplified by your comment.

I haven't read the KS campaign but if there is really some environmental bs in there then I am definitely out.

Yeah, making sure the planet remains habitable for future generations and doing what we can to limit the destruction climate change is causing and will cause is such bullshit! Our species should go out with a literal bang! Let's leave a post-apocalytpic irradiated wasteland and see what cool shit evolves next! All the rich people can take shelter in Australia for the next couple hundred years, because despite the gargantuan amount of evidence to the contrary, surely only the most intelligent people are wealthy so they should be the ones to continue humanity. /s

[theCapraAegagrus]

Considering that it has "Poker Deck" in its title, I was expecting a deck that I can actually play poker with...

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

I collect decks for their artwork/design, I certainly don't see how all of them need to be as functional as a standard deck, that would be incredibly limited for starters. Playing card deck, poker deck, deck of cards etc, it's all the same thing and you know that, sometimes nitpicking is just nitpicking for the sake of it as exemplified by your comment.

You're wrong.

Playing cards are a specific medium for artwork. Not all artwork fits the medium. This project exemplifies how some "good artwork" makes for "bad playing cards".

[vasta41]

Considering that it has "Poker Deck" in its title, I was expecting a deck that I can actually play poker with...

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

I collect decks for their artwork/design, I certainly don't see how all of them need to be as functional as a standard deck, that would be incredibly limited for starters. Playing card deck, poker deck, deck of cards etc, it's all the same thing and you know that, sometimes nitpicking is just nitpicking for the sake of it as exemplified by your comment.

You're wrong.

Playing cards are a specific medium for artwork. Not all artwork fits the medium. This project exemplifies how some "good artwork" makes for "bad playing cards".

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree 100% with 2pc. here. No one is arguing that this project doesn't have fantastic drawings. But like some other decks that come through here the design doesn't translate to playing cards. Which makes me upset in this case because with a little more effort this could be a beautiful transformation deck or something like that. But people have already pledged almost 15K so...

[Decknowledgy]

I agree that this isn't a deck for gameplay in any way. But I don't play any card games whatsoever, and I love the artwork, and it's cheaper and more durable than the Fine Art edition which is basically a poster card sized set of paper that requires protection and framing. So why not get a poker quality, durable set of this artwork with a cheaper price? That's why it's got my full support.

[vasta41]

So why not get a poker quality, durable set of this artwork with a cheaper price?

Because I collect playing cards.

[Decknowledgy]

So why not get a poker quality, durable set of this artwork with a cheaper price?

Because I collect playing cards.

That sounds quite right

[shimmering]

Thanks Decknowledgy for reporting back on this. Honestly when I read the artist's comments about international shipping last week I really didn't hold out any hope of him changing his mind, and had no intention of checking back on the project myself. However, now I am in. And yes I imagine I will use these for gameplay as they are clearly designed to be used.

[PipChick]

Personally, I find this deck a bit not to my taste. However, it is so bizarre, I kind of like it. If it wasn't so darn expensive.

I am interested at what PipChick thinks of this deck. This art is so out there, she might really dig this stuff.

Bradius, you know me too well lol the bizarro surrealistic nature of the art alone has me excited and, on first glance, I was ready to insta-back... buuuutt, after finally snappin' outta my love-induced state of admiration for the art, I spent some time looking over the project and, to be completely honest, I had (still have) some reservations that made me pause to think before smashin' the pledge button;

Firstly, I somewhat agree with others about the lack of pips and the "unobtrusively placed" indices and feel that even just by changing the placement to the right-hand corner on both ends and adding a small pip below to indicate the card's suit, yet still leaving out the rest of the value pips from the center as to not compete with, distract from, and/or obstruct the art, would nonetheless greatly improve practicality/playability for those so inclined to use this particular deck for that purpose. But, considering that this deck was obviously not explicitly designed for that intended purpose, but rather used only as a medium by which to share the designer's art, the qualms I have in this specific regard doesn't really deter me enough to still not wanna own this deck, because I still really, really do wanna

I am, however, more apprehensive about the price at which these decks are being offered - $25 bucks for what essentially is a reprinted deck of 3,000 editions produced by EPCC and in a tuck that doesn't even include any other extraordinary additional features is kinda a stretch for me, even for a deck I really love... Now, don't get me wrong, I do recognize and greatly appreciate that there's original art on every.single.card and that some slight modifications had been made in re-painting and digitizing of the work to create a cleaner, brighter and more saturated aesthetic compared to the dark, antique look of the 1st edition in order to better suit the contemporary reiteration of the original inspiration to make it more universally relevant to today's times; but then again, there's plenty of really great art decks already out there that were printed in lower print runs, by better companies AND feature at least some sort of tuck premium like matte stock, cutouts, embossing/debossing, metallic inks, foil, etc. that somewhat justify a slightly higher premium, but are still priced roughly at or below what this one's demanding...

With all that said and done after brief deliberation (that was actually quite mentally extraneous, I might add), I still ended up jumpin' in for a deck at the EB pledge tier... But, to be frank, I'm still reeeaally on the fence about keeping it and it's the artwork that I adore so much alone that's keeping me back from dropping juuuusst quite yet as I'm really seriously considering to do so and, now that it's already funded, instead waiting 'til after it's produced to pick one up later

also, just for the record: playing cards don't necessarily have to simultaneously be everything to everyone - that's what makes this hobby so great because there's literally something for all regardless where people's specific interests lie. So I appreciate that decks like these exist, just as much as I appreciate that gaff decks exist for purposes other than explicitly intended for gameplay but that doesn't necessarily make them any less of a deck of cards and I really don't think we gotta reignite the ageless debate again over what "is" and "isn't" subjectively deemed "playing cards"

So why not get a poker quality, durable set of this artwork with a cheaper price?

Because I collect playing cards.

btw, this is probably only hysterically amusing to me as it comes from a guy that keeps all his decks sealed...



EDIT: I also really hate that the art editions are a whooping $150 bukaroos each only because it gives me a bad case of the sadz that I can't afford to own one... *pout*

[theCapraAegagrus]

I collect decks for their artwork/design, I certainly don't see how all of them need to be as functional as a standard deck, that would be incredibly limited for starters. Playing card deck, poker deck, deck of cards etc, it's all the same thing and you know that, sometimes nitpicking is just nitpicking for the sake of it as exemplified by your comment.

You're wrong.

Playing cards are a specific medium for artwork. Not all artwork fits the medium. This project exemplifies how some "good artwork" makes for "bad playing cards".

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree 100% with 2pc. here. No one is arguing that this project doesn't have fantastic drawings. But like some other decks that come through here the design doesn't translate to playing cards. Which makes me upset in this case because with a little more effort this could be a beautiful transformation deck or something like that. But people have already pledged almost 15K so...

I'm not some completely illogical being.

[vasta41]

So why not get a poker quality, durable set of this artwork with a cheaper price?

Because I collect playing cards.

btw, this is probably only hysterically amusing to me as it comes from a guy that keeps all his decks sealed...

You're damn right, sister. Not sure what's so funny about my playing card collection but I'm glad I amuse you! My sealed decks and I will laugh right back at you and all your opened decks weirdo

[PipChick]

My sealed decks and I will laugh right back at you and all your opened decks weirdo

I suppose sometimes madness is an appropriate response to reality...

but not in this case weirdo lmao