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Bikefanatic wrote:Alexandros refunded me and I paid again in full.
Yeah, same here, but before I reorder I'm hoping for Lotrek's word on this to the community since this is big money and kidneys for many of us :shock: :uggrin:

Also, PayPal's refunding scheme isn't immediate which is a bit scary
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After reading the comments here I have just discovered I was refunded too. No email notification to tell me this :(

Have just reordered my decks - I hope this doesn't affect the order the numbers are allocated seeing as my original order was placed within the first 2 minutes.
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misterharmanko wrote:I hope this doesn't affect the order the numbers are allocated seeing as my original order was placed within the first 2 minutes.
Feel the same.. just re-ordered as well. Fingers crossed. :-)
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I also just received a refund email after 13 hours. Hopefully Lotrek will have this already in hand.
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For those wondering about the serial number when repeating the purchase, you will all get your initial serial number. My website has kept the record, it was purely an issue with paypal.
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Lotrek wrote:For those wondering about the serial number when repeating the purchase, you will all get your initial serial number. My website has kept the record, it was purely an issue with paypal.
Off to reorders, thanks for this!
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So the outright purchase of a deck is $70 and the reservation is $80?? Or is the balance for a reservation $60?
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$70 if you pay in full, no extra fee required
$80 if you pay only $10 upfront for reservation, followed by a full amount of $70 per deck before shipping

Yes, paying full gets a $10 discount
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Fair enough, just checking.
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Bradius wrote:Sorry, I consider a month later “shortly”. Being older than dirt means the passage of time feels different for me.
My correction wasn't your comment on timing, but your claim that the next Silk deck will be the black back design, which it will not be. The next Silk deck will have an entirely different back design.
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Glad to know it wasn’t just me! Reordering!!
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TwoPiece wrote:
The next Silk deck will have an entirely different back design
Gold on dark green or gold on blue!!!

Gold over blue is one of the best combinations possibles.
Trust me on this. In Portugal we use to say "That's gold over blue" when we mean something is just perfect.

Are you sure you only want to do two versions? I wouldn't mind two more versions for the same price (or lower) in August or September...

Lotrek, at least check (please) the effect of gold over blue. If not on another version of this deck, you may use it the future.
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your claim that the next Silk deck will be the black back design, which it will not be. The next Silk deck will have an entirely different back design.
I must have totally missed that. Thanks for the clarification TwoPiece.

My order has been placed again. Please take my money. :D
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Smocito wrote:
TwoPiece wrote:
The next Silk deck will have an entirely different back design
Gold on dark green or gold on blue!!!

Gold over blue is one of the best combinations possibles.
Trust me on this. In Portugal we use to say "That's gold over blue" when we mean something is just perfect.

Are you sure you only want to do two versions? I wouldn't mind two more versions for the same price (or lower) in August or September...

Lotrek, at least check (please) the effect of gold over blue. If not on another version of this deck, you may use it the future.
If Lotrek makes more than 1 other Silk deck then I'm throwing mine in the trash!
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That was the plan, make TwoPiece buy a deck and then make him throw it away! Eheh
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TwoPiece wrote:
...If Lotrek makes more than 1 other Silk deck then I'm throwing mine in the trash!
I know he said he wouldn't (and I wish designers would stop doing small print runs of high price decks because that limits the number of people who can enjoy the decks and becomes too expensive for "common people"). But, if he did, throwing one silk deck in the trash would be a mistake. You could try to trade it for another.

This method Lotrek is using isn't bad, anybody who wants a deck will be able to get it. And, working alone, handling the entire process, he needs to keep the numbers relatively low. I just wished the prices could be lower.
I think we all do :)
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Got my order in this morning. Lotrek's store kindly shut up and took my money.
Move on, nothing to see here.
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It's amazing what mess was caused by my statement for a second edition etc...

To make it clear: ONLY 2 editions will exist, in fact 2 different decks with more or less the same name. No color variations of the same deck, no test or error prints, no super limited editions with signed hair from my eyelids.

The second deck's color scheme will probably be gold on blue indeed although it's not yet decided. The second edition will be limited to a number roughly equal to the number of the first edition decks.
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I'll skip this one and wait for the second edition, I need more blue decks made by Lotrek.
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Lotrek wrote:It's amazing what mess was caused by my statement for a second edition etc...

To make it clear: ONLY 2 editions will exist, in fact 2 different decks with more or less the same name. No color variations of the same deck, no test or error prints, no super limited editions with signed hair from my eyelids.

The second deck's color scheme will probably be gold on blue indeed although it's not yet decided. The second edition will be limited to a number roughly equal to the number of the first edition decks.
The ONLY similarities will the the name and design of the court cards, correct? I think you mentioned that the courts will be the same, but recolored.
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Lotrek wrote: ...no super limited editions with signed hair from my eyelids.
well damn; this was the greatest & only interest I had in this deck AND the major selling point for me - I'm out! lmao :lol:

without those ultra limited edition signed eyelashes, this is an easy pass! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Can those that backed the first version get a limited time option to purchase the same number of second version decks as we bought for the first version before you open the sale up to everyone? Not everyone has as fast fingers as Pierre.

A locket of hair would have been sort of appropriate gives this is a “silk” deck.
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TwoPiece wrote:
Lotrek wrote:It's amazing what mess was caused by my statement for a second edition etc...

To make it clear: ONLY 2 editions will exist, in fact 2 different decks with more or less the same name. No color variations of the same deck, no test or error prints, no super limited editions with signed hair from my eyelids.

The second deck's color scheme will probably be gold on blue indeed although it's not yet decided. The second edition will be limited to a number roughly equal to the number of the first edition decks.
The ONLY similarities will the the name and design of the court cards, correct? I think you mentioned that the courts will be the same, but recolored.
Yes, exactly.
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Lotrek wrote:It's amazing what mess was caused by my statement for a second edition etc...
At least we all know there will be a 2nd edition sometime soon.

Remember the outcry when everyone found out about the Blue Damask deck. I think Arabesque Silver was also a similar situation.
I would much rather know about future decks than have them sprung upon me.
Maybe next time just don't show us so many variations beforehand :D

Lotrek, I'm also curious as to how your reservations went?
Was it a hit or did most people simply buy outright to save themselves $10?
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Smocito wrote: This method Lotrek is using isn't bad, anybody who wants a deck will be able to get it. And, working alone, handling the entire process, he needs to keep the numbers relatively low. I just wished the prices could be lower.
I think we all do :)

We hear you, our bank accounts definitely agree. However since Lotrek's ONLY :lol: charging $70 for this one, it's actually lower than what his previous decks were sold for in 2018. Arabesque was around $80, Damask was at an eye-watering $90 for pre order sight unseen mystery deck!

So I really hope this new 2019 model of releasing decks becomes a hit for Lotrek and he can continue to lower his prices and release more decks for the public. I also hope it means that Lotrek's got the whole printing and cutting process down so that he can produce more decks at 2018 production rates or better.

One also wishes he will also get around to completing his much awaited Bosch deck in 2019! (HINT! HINT!)
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Actually, the price of this deck surprised me a little given this is a one-foil deck. The Ambassador deck was his last single foil deck produced and it was only $38(?) early release and $45 regular release price. So, $70 was a huge bump up. I want to say that is the same price that I paid for the Signature Ambassador decks, with gold foil on silk tucks. Anyway, it doesn't matter much, the deck looks awesome and I am in anyway. Still, $45-$55 per deck would have been great.
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Smocito wrote:I wish designers would stop doing small print runs of high price decks because that limits the number of people who can enjoy the decks and becomes too expensive for "common people"
I can only say, what would the world be like if Lexus LC500s, Jaguar F-Types, S-Class Mercedes, Aston Martins etc didn't exist? If the nicest car money could buy was a Camry with some extra options, what could we dream of or aspire to own or experience? They might be difficult to obtain, but they're worth it when/if you do. Not to mention how the new technologies/processes etc will trickle down to more ordinary decks and eventually become semi-commonplace.
Bradius wrote:Actually, the price of this deck surprised me a little given this is a one-foil deck... Anyway, it doesn't matter much, the deck looks awesome and I am in anyway. Still, $45-$55 per deck would have been great.
The Ambassadors decks didn't have completely custom artwork, or the intricacy seen here. The number of foils isn't a fair comparison for price. Lotrek is the only designer I will buy standard type courts from and I definitely think his fully custom artwork is worth more.
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Bradius wrote:Actually, the price of this deck surprised me a little given this is a one-foil deck. The Ambassador deck was his last single foil deck produced and it was only $38(?) early release and $45 regular release price. So, $70 was a huge bump up. I want to say that is the same price that I paid for the Signature Ambassador decks, with gold foil on silk tucks. Anyway, it doesn't matter much, the deck looks awesome and I am in anyway. Still, $45-$55 per deck would have been great.
"Only" one foil has to do with the number of different foil colors. Ambassadors had only 1 foil on the back. Silk has "only" one foil on the back and faces which multiplies the number of the plates needed.

Not to mention how technically demanding is to execute this work.
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Lotrek wrote:
Bradius wrote:Actually, the price of this deck surprised me a little given this is a one-foil deck. The Ambassador deck was his last single foil deck produced and it was only $38(?) early release and $45 regular release price. So, $70 was a huge bump up. I want to say that is the same price that I paid for the Signature Ambassador decks, with gold foil on silk tucks. Anyway, it doesn't matter much, the deck looks awesome and I am in anyway. Still, $45-$55 per deck would have been great.
"Only" one foil has to do with the number of different foil colors. Ambassadors had only 1 foil on the back. Silk has "only" one foil on the back and faces which multiplies the number of the plates needed.

Not to mention how technically demanding is to execute this work.
This is what I was gonna say. Foil on the faces shoots the production costs up.
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I am not sure what happened to the credit, but PayPal hit my bank account twice for the order.
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