What is a good Unitedcardists friendly kickstarter campaign?

[Vilhelmkruse]

Just wondering - we are about to launch a playing card KS and it occurred to me to ask you guys what makes your day...

What would a Unitedcardist friendly ks look like? Or maybe the opposit it easier to answer? What would an unfriendly campaign look like (sure hope not to make one of those)

Looking forward from hearing from you.

[JuFiN]

depending on how far along the deck is either make a post in the new decks forum or custom deck drafting board to get feedback and build a bit of hype. If you want to get this community to support the deck you gotta show it to us first! And if there is something that is off/unpopular I’m sure we will let you know. If you want to do this it’s important to do it long enough before launch to be able to implement any changes that you might want to as a result of feedback.

Print with a respected printing company USPCC, EPCC/LPCC (Taiwan), Cartamundi.

Make sure your back design is two way, same goes for faces but there can be exceptions if you get a good reason.

Good luck!

[rousselle]

Turn ons:

* Excellent design
* Metallic inks or foil on cards, where appropriate
* Good price
* Thin borders or no borders (for many of us, while others of us do prefer borders. But, where there are borders, not very thick)
* Good manufacturers (see JuFiN's list above)
* Good tuckbox with embossing/debossing and/or foil
* Good theme (and, let's lay off steampunk, cthulu, pirates, and skulls for a little while, unless you can *really* blow us away with your design)
* Good art
* Reputable partnerships / fulfillment house a plus.
* Regular updates to the project and engagement in the comments section. Doesn't have to be every day, but "regular."
* Know the "rules" of traditional playing card design (standard suits, indexes, suicide king, which courts face left/right, two-way courts and backs, etc.). If you break a few here and there, that's fine as long as there's a reason that makes sense.
* Big bonus for engagement here at UC in threads that aren't just about your project.

Turn offs:

* The opposites of the above
* Excessive hype in the ad copy ("The most original, unique deck ever made in the history of playing cards!!!")
* Reacting childishly when things don't go according to plan (which is inevitable, at some point)
* Reacting childishly to criticism. Esp. when it's constructive or well-intentioned. Granted, you don't have to like it when someone says, "It sucks," but replying with, "I hate you! I hate you! I hate you!" doesn't show class, either.
* Listing "Founders" as one of your earlier projects.

I'm sure this list isn't exhaustive, but you get the idea.

[PipChick]

Turn ons:

* Good theme (and, let's lay off steampunk, cthulu, pirates, and skulls for a little while

can we please also lay a bit off of the space/sun/moon/astrological/etc. theme or basically anything that somehow incorporates a constellation or that god-awful rainbow space nebula effect into the design - Aside from a small handful of projects that have been successful in executing this theme into a deck design, it seems like there are so many more that are completely over saturating the market lately - I'd personally like if we all just eased off and astro-not for awhile...

That is,

...unless you can *really* blow us away with your design

Also, please try to keep some of us international backers in mind when it comes to shipping costs; that can literally be the final deciding factor as to whether or not to back a project.

Turn offs:
* Reacting childishly when things don't go according to plan (which is inevitable, at some point)
* Reacting childishly to criticism. Esp. when it's constructive or well-intentioned. Granted, you don't have to like it when someone says, "It sucks," but replying with, "I hate you! I hate you! I hate you!" doesn't show class, either.

quite literally THE biggest Turn off... actually, just acting childish in general would be more accurate lol

[vedus]

Not this... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/15 ... ying-cards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Vilhelmkruse]

Thank you for taking the time to answer guys. You are a great help. I am new to this community - but I like the helpful vibe.
... and we will be sure to pocket the pirates

[Jocu]

Can I reboot this a little bit instead of making a new thread, and ask what you guys think about rewards?

I'm sure a good, simple, 1 x Deck for good price is always a welcome reward, as well as brick discounts and early bird limited discounts.

However I see a lot of coins, uncut sheets, limited run decks (sometimes made with an inferior manufacturer as the run is too limited for the big ones) limited editions on everything, custom seals etc.

What rewards do you hate, love, want and expect from a campaign?

[Bradius]

A deck that came out of nowhere and blew me and a bunch of others away at $45 was UUSI’s Junkanoo deck. Great art and a refreshing theme.

[rousselle]

Rewards that I really like: a well-designed, weighty cover coin.

An uncut, if the design particularly warrants it.

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

Every once in a while, I like a booklet that comes with the cards that explains the design process or the history related to the deck. Rick Davidson did this with his Origins decks, and Kirk Slater with Sisterhood of the Blood (I think). The Delirium Prism project. GPCC has done one or two. These can be fun, although I don't *always* go for them.

[Jocu]

Rewards that I really like: a well-designed, weighty cover coin.

An uncut, if the design particularly warrants it.

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

Every once in a while, I like a booklet that comes with the cards that explains the design process or the history related to the deck. Rick Davidson did this with his Origins decks, and Kirk Slater with Sisterhood of the Blood (I think). The Delirium Prism project. GPCC has done one or two. These can be fun, although I don't *always* go for them.

I was wondering about the coins as I see them often - what are they for?? I'd assumed they were just trinket collectibles or dealer buttons in poker games. But maybe I'm missing something. What kind of size/weight should they be? I imagine slightly bigger than a poker chip but not as thick?

[STLBluesNut]

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

I agree, I do not like seals on decks. I hate seeing them as stretch goals.



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[guru]

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

I agree, I do not like seals on decks. I hate seeing them as stretch goals.



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Me too, and that's why this time I am willing to offer hand numbered decks (Heritage Edition) rather than adding a stamp/seal where the latter is way easier to do while the former has certain logistical & economic challenges.

[rousselle]

Rewards that I really like: a well-designed, weighty cover coin.

An uncut, if the design particularly warrants it.

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

Every once in a while, I like a booklet that comes with the cards that explains the design process or the history related to the deck. Rick Davidson did this with his Origins decks, and Kirk Slater with Sisterhood of the Blood (I think). The Delirium Prism project. GPCC has done one or two. These can be fun, although I don't *always* go for them.

I was wondering about the coins as I see them often - what are they for?? I'd assumed they were just trinket collectibles or dealer buttons in poker games. But maybe I'm missing something. What kind of size/weight should they be? I imagine slightly bigger than a poker chip but not as thick?

Coins that are associated with playing card projects tend to serve either as dealer buttons or, more frequently, as "cover coins" or "card guards," which are used to hold your cards down and keep other, errantly-thrown cards from accidentally getting inserted into your stack and triggering a misdeal. Sometimes, they are also used as a token or a totem for "EDC" (Every Day Carry.) A good luck charm, if you will.

As a cover coin, they should have a reasonable amount of heft. The best such coins, in my opinion, tend to run about 2" in diameter, possibly smaller, but typically not smaller than 1.5". My favorite cover coins include the lucky charm that came with the Coat of Arms decks -- the project was originally on Kickstarter, and the coin can also be found at https://jammpakdcards.com/shop?olsPage= ... er-3d-coin -- and any of the larger coins designed by Jackson Robinson (https://kingswildproject.com/collections/dealer-coins), Randy Butterfield (https://www.facebook.com/midnightcards/ ... =3&theater), Giovanni Meroni (https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/prod ... ory/coins/) or Jody Eklund (https://blackinkplayingcards.com/collec ... aler-coins). Steve Minty (https://steveminty.com/collections/all) has also created some killer coins with his projects, as has Lorenzo Gaggiotti (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ra ... ng%20cards).

So, yeah, bigger than a poker chip in diameter, and at least as thick. But, much heavier.

I hope this is helpful!

[Jocu]

Rewards that I really like: a well-designed, weighty cover coin.

An uncut, if the design particularly warrants it.

I'm not a fan of seals on decks, but when they are customized, that can be cool, and when they don't actually inhibit opening the deck, that's much, much cooler. (Some artists have put serial numbers on the tuck cases instead of the seals, and left seals off entirely. I like that.)

Every once in a while, I like a booklet that comes with the cards that explains the design process or the history related to the deck. Rick Davidson did this with his Origins decks, and Kirk Slater with Sisterhood of the Blood (I think). The Delirium Prism project. GPCC has done one or two. These can be fun, although I don't *always* go for them.

I was wondering about the coins as I see them often - what are they for?? I'd assumed they were just trinket collectibles or dealer buttons in poker games. But maybe I'm missing something. What kind of size/weight should they be? I imagine slightly bigger than a poker chip but not as thick?

Coins that are associated with playing card projects tend to serve either as dealer buttons or, more frequently, as "cover coins" or "card guards," which are used to hold your cards down and keep other, errantly-thrown cards from accidentally getting inserted into your stack and triggering a misdeal. Sometimes, they are also used as a token or a totem for "EDC" (Every Day Carry.) A good luck charm, if you will.

As a cover coin, they should have a reasonable amount of heft. The best such coins, in my opinion, tend to run about 2" in diameter, possibly smaller, but typically not smaller than 1.5". My favorite cover coins include the lucky charm that came with the Coat of Arms decks -- the project was originally on Kickstarter, and the coin can also be found at https://jammpakdcards.com/shop?olsPage= ... er-3d-coin -- and any of the larger coins designed by Jackson Robinson (https://kingswildproject.com/collections/dealer-coins), Randy Butterfield (https://www.facebook.com/midnightcards/ ... =3&theater), Giovanni Meroni (https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/prod ... ory/coins/) or Jody Eklund (https://blackinkplayingcards.com/collec ... aler-coins). Steve Minty (https://steveminty.com/collections/all) has also created some killer coins with his projects, as has Lorenzo Gaggiotti (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ra ... ng%20cards).

So, yeah, bigger than a poker chip in diameter, and at least as thick. But, much heavier.

I hope this is helpful!

SUPER helpful, thanks! I'm waiting on a couple of samples to arrive from places that don't have minimum order restrictions or tool costs, so they cost a little more per coin but are more Kickstarter-friendly so you don't risk having a low number of backers taking the reward and being stuck with 1000 coins and a big bill

Let's hope the specs are up to scratch

[Eric Lee]

Don't forget an important point: Which reward/addon fits the theme and purpose of your deck.

Mint 2 was targeted toward magicians and collectors, hence the rewards and addons were geared towards that. Man, he had a lot of addons! Then again he had a million followers on his youtube channel.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/52 ... m=mint%202

For first time playing cards, here's a good one: Wasteland Alice was based on Post-Apocalyptic Alice in Wonderland. They offered clay coins and a colouring book which doubles as a info booklet of the characters. Check out the sheer tiers of rewards he had.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sk ... /comments"

Cardistry decks are all about the design and the cards itself. An uncut may make sense if the art is good. Good rewards for them would be special tutorials for flourishes/moves which were created by the designer themselves