In the Kickstarter downtime, we are hard at work improving every aspect of Joker and the Thief, getting our name out there, and working on... what's that?... yes - New Projects...
Let us leave you with this photograph, and the name VOYAGERS.
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In the Kickstarter downtime, we are hard at work improving every aspect of Joker and the Thief, getting our name out there, and working on... what's that?... yes - New Projects...
Let us leave you with this photograph, and the name VOYAGERS.
I can only assume this is a coincidence since the T11 deck isn't plural. I wonder if J&T will change their title now?PipChick wrote:Interesting since here is a teaser pic posted a few days ago from Theory 11's IG of a deck that's set to be released this Friday (05/10) which also appears to be named "VOYAGER":
yea very, very coincidental and it seems to me that they really ought to consider doing so; it's waaay too similar and it really doesn't help that the campaign for their "VOYAGER" deck is announced to launch so close to the date of T11's newest "VOYAGERS" release...vasta41 wrote:I can only assume this is a coincidence since the T11 deck isn't plural. I wonder if J&T will change their title now?PipChick wrote:Interesting since here is a teaser pic posted a few days ago from Theory 11's IG of a deck that's set to be released this Friday (05/10) which also appears to be named "VOYAGER":
It's the Octopus, but, yeah, I liked the HMNIM deck a lot, too.the back reminds me HMNIM
yea, I thought so too when I first saw it; not necessarily because only the back design of the two decks are too similar, but rather I think it's mostly because of similarity of the octopus motif that feels most reminiscent of HMNIM for me...akicer wrote:the back reminds me HMNIM
Hey, Amy: I hate to say "I told you so" butJoker and the Thief wrote:Hey everyone! Thanks for the positive feedback on our new deck Voyagers.
To answer whether we’ll be changing the title, the answer is a solid NO. We announced our Voyagers well before theory11 did. It just turned out that we were both developing a deck with the same name. So no foul play and best of luck to T11From the looks of it, theory11 is going in a different direction thematically where ours is very traditionally nautical.
Aaaaanyway. There’s way more to come, so be sure to keep an eye out. As always with our flagship decks, they’re 100% custom. And that said we are also developing another 2 original projects but you’ll start to see those towards the end of the year.
Done. Liking this!Räpylätassu wrote:Once again, don't know how to make instagram pics instantly visible, mods work your magic!
This deck looks incredible but I am really torn on this one. Despite the earlier fiasco, those cards looked amazing and I have them on my P52 wishlist. However, I am hesitant to support them after how they handled the bait-and-switch. It was a shitty cotton bag with some great decks but the way they handled the situation was unacceptable. Do these Voyagers look incredible? Absolutely. I may be able to get a cool nautical-themed deck in league with HMNIM without paying a fortune. Will I be supporting those assclowns? Yes.Räpylätassu wrote:This deck launches on 1st of June. USPCC printing. I know that the Joker and the Thiefs cotton bag fiasco was really a low-point, but still this will be a rather nice deck again so backing for just for decks might be something to consider. Might not be smart to back anything fancy though, like any possible wooden boxes![]()
Correct me if i'm wrong, but they contract out all the artwork for all their decks to a third party artist (can't recall a name offhand).Decknowledgy wrote:My views might not be welcomed here but I love the design, and J&T really delivers on the details every single time. Since the aftermarket price of their decks are often pricier, I might end up backing these, just waiting for the campaign tiers to show what will be the final amount.
You're right, I could confirm this with the Maidens deck, the artist was Kentaro Yoshida instead of themrorschach wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but they contract out all the artwork for all their decks to a third party artist (can't recall a name offhand).Decknowledgy wrote:My views might not be welcomed here but I love the design, and J&T really delivers on the details every single time. Since the aftermarket price of their decks are often pricier, I might end up backing these, just waiting for the campaign tiers to show what will be the final amount.
Except... that one time hehe. 60% of the time, they deliver every time.Decknowledgy wrote: J&T really delivers on the details every single time
The difference between J&T and JR is that JR re-engaged with the community and has been a serious contributor to the forum since then. I don't see J&T doing that, but if they do, maybe I will give them a second chance. Until then, I will sit this one out and enjoy from the sidelines...probably pick one up in the after market if anything.Azid wrote:I backed 3 campaigns from J&T and i always got the correct rewards (no i wasn't in the collector box tier of their last campaign), so i'm in again.
Maybe i'm not making friends here now & i feel sorry for the 65 backers (of almost 800 backers) of the limited box set who didn't get what they were promised. And yes, J&T's attitude wasn't ok. But i still think they deserve another chance. Remember the Legal Tender disaster like 2 years ago ? Many of the people who pulled JR into the dirt are now satisfied subscription members and praise him....
As a new UC poster was / is J&T active here. Just ignore if this is a rabbit hole not worth going down. Not looking to start anything.shermjack wrote:The difference between J&T and JR is that JR re-engaged with the community and has been a serious contributor to the forum since then. I don't see J&T doing that, but if they do, maybe I will give them a second chance. Until then, I will sit this one out and enjoy from the sidelines...probably pick one up in the after market if anything.Azid wrote:I backed 3 campaigns from J&T and i always got the correct rewards (no i wasn't in the collector box tier of their last campaign), so i'm in again.
Maybe i'm not making friends here now & i feel sorry for the 65 backers (of almost 800 backers) of the limited box set who didn't get what they were promised. And yes, J&T's attitude wasn't ok. But i still think they deserve another chance. Remember the Legal Tender disaster like 2 years ago ? Many of the people who pulled JR into the dirt are now satisfied subscription members and praise him....
As far as I've seen they used to be active in threads for their decks but I can't really recall seeing them posting elsewhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.LasVegasCards wrote:As a new UC poster was / is J&T active here. Just ignore if this is a rabbit hole not worth going down. Not looking to start anything.shermjack wrote:The difference between J&T and JR is that JR re-engaged with the community and has been a serious contributor to the forum since then. I don't see J&T doing that, but if they do, maybe I will give them a second chance. Until then, I will sit this one out and enjoy from the sidelines...probably pick one up in the after market if anything.Azid wrote:I backed 3 campaigns from J&T and i always got the correct rewards (no i wasn't in the collector box tier of their last campaign), so i'm in again.
Maybe i'm not making friends here now & i feel sorry for the 65 backers (of almost 800 backers) of the limited box set who didn't get what they were promised. And yes, J&T's attitude wasn't ok. But i still think they deserve another chance. Remember the Legal Tender disaster like 2 years ago ? Many of the people who pulled JR into the dirt are now satisfied subscription members and praise him....
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