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I kinda preferred the other tuck displayed shown to us a while back, but good lord that's all of shine.
Thanks for the update Lotrek!
Thanks for the update Lotrek!
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I am pleased with the new tuck design. Just for reference, below was what he showed us for the tuck originally.
Update: 15 error decks still available.
Update: 15 error decks still available.
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I do admire your indefatigable sense of humor about it. If I made a mistake like that I would probably lie on the floor and cry for a week before sending any e-mails....
Transparency builds trust, and your reputation speaks for itself. I have every confidence the deck will arrive in due time and that it will be beautiful. So while I can imagine the disappointment and frustration you must be feeling as a creator, I can't say I share it as a collector. I know the final product will be better for the lessons learned.
Whoever finally spotted the mistake probably deserves a raise, though.
Transparency builds trust, and your reputation speaks for itself. I have every confidence the deck will arrive in due time and that it will be beautiful. So while I can imagine the disappointment and frustration you must be feeling as a creator, I can't say I share it as a collector. I know the final product will be better for the lessons learned.
Whoever finally spotted the mistake probably deserves a raise, though.
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The old design was leaving too little space for the word "Arabesque" which is already a bit hard to read. The first design was rather simple while the second makes extensive use of the debossing AND embossing, creating actually 3 levels. There is a lot to see in that tuck.Cardians wrote:I kinda preferred the other tuck displayed shown to us a while back, but good lord that's all of shine.
Thanks for the update Lotrek!
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If you weren’t so damned talented Lotrek, I’d have stopped backing you a long time ago for the recurrent nature of these avoidable errors that plague so many of of your projects.
But you are so damned talented and devoted to your craft, and it is frustratingly impossible to remain angry at a character who is so affable.
*sigh*
PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
But you are so damned talented and devoted to your craft, and it is frustratingly impossible to remain angry at a character who is so affable.
*sigh*
PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
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Lotrek, I repeat: WAIT FOR THE NEXT DECK TO BE IN YOUR HANDS BEFORE SELLING! I'm not upset but dear God... It's almost comical.
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I am sorry, but that is just not close to true. At $50 per deck for 70 decks, that comes to only $3,500. That will not get near the cost of reprinting 333 Arabesque decks with double foil on the reverse and on the court cards, plus the cost to cut finish and assemble them, plus the cost to mail the error decks internationally.PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
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It is.vasta41 wrote:Lotrek, I repeat: WAIT FOR THE NEXT DECK TO BE IN YOUR HANDS BEFORE SELLING! I'm not upset but dear God... It's almost comical.
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Math problems aside, it's the implication that artists only deserve to eat when they're successful that doesn't sit well with me.Bradius wrote:I am sorry, but that is just not close to true. At $50 per deck for 70 decks, that comes to only $3,500. That will not get near the cost of reprinting 333 Arabesque decks with double foil on the reverse and on the court cards, plus the cost to cut finish and assemble them, plus the cost to mail the error decks internationally.PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
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Re: "ARABESQUE" by OathPlayingCards
If he were scrapping the decks people would complain. So he tries to sell them and people still complain? Why? Just don't buy them lol Geez, you really can't please everyone.
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I agree. It's just that this mistake is so idiotic... I executed an incredibly complex production without serious problems and I designed wrong indices in 2 cards????Merlebird wrote:Math problems aside, it's the implication that artists only deserve to eat when they're successful that doesn't sit well with me.Bradius wrote:I am sorry, but that is just not close to true. At $50 per deck for 70 decks, that comes to only $3,500. That will not get near the cost of reprinting 333 Arabesque decks with double foil on the reverse and on the court cards, plus the cost to cut finish and assemble them, plus the cost to mail the error decks internationally.PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
If you're not making mistakes, you're not doing art.
On the other hand, I think that I was so much focused on the technical side that I took for granted the pips etc were okay so I didn't really check as carefully as I should.
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Well, as the old saying goes, even Homer sometimes nods.Lotrek wrote:It's just that this mistake is so idiotic... I executed an incredibly complex production without serious problems and I designed wrong indices in 2 cards????
Good company for a Greek to be in, I think!
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I bet this NEVER happens to you again. Lol.Lotrek wrote:I agree. It's just that this mistake is so idiotic... I executed an incredibly complex production without serious problems and I designed wrong indices in 2 cards????Merlebird wrote:Math problems aside, it's the implication that artists only deserve to eat when they're successful that doesn't sit well with me.Bradius wrote:I am sorry, but that is just not close to true. At $50 per deck for 70 decks, that comes to only $3,500. That will not get near the cost of reprinting 333 Arabesque decks with double foil on the reverse and on the court cards, plus the cost to cut finish and assemble them, plus the cost to mail the error decks internationally.PS As much as I am tempted to buy the error deck, I don’t agree with the concept of financing mistakes, and at $50USD per deck, postage included or not, there is no way you are losing money (only profit).
If you're not making mistakes, you're not doing art.
On the other hand, I think that I was so much focused on the technical side that I took for granted the pips etc were okay so I didn't really check as carefully as I should.
I admit I bought a misprint deck. Figure I can review that while I wait for the final version. lol
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Strange... I didn't get this email. I checked my spam too. I also checked my other email with which I signed up on Lotrek's website for updates. The last one I received was about the foil upgrade. Any new ETA mentioned in the email?TheGentlemanWake wrote:Just got “THE” email. Sigh. [emoji20]
So there’s a misprint. Lotrek had to scrap the existing decks because he can’t print replacement cards because there’s no more card stock of the type he used. Selling misprint version for $50
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Lotrek is resuming printing after Easter and it should take about two weeks to complete.Oscar53955 wrote: Any new ETA mentioned in the email?
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Some of the greatest eyes and critques in the card industry reside on this board. Perhaps open up the designs to the community for a last check to see if anything is missing or to catch some mistakes.Lotrek wrote: I agree. It's just that this mistake is so idiotic... I executed an incredibly complex production without serious problems and I designed wrong indices in 2 cards????
On the other hand, I think that I was so much focused on the technical side that I took for granted the pips etc were okay so I didn't really check as carefully as I should.
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I know it may look like I whine, but I have a suggestion. If it would be possible in the future for sales like this to be announced for instance with 24h in advance. That way I think everybody would have an equal chance at getting them. I went to bed 30min before the email and it's the second time this happens to me , first was with the Liturgy red and green decks.
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Although I was lucky enough to buy one, I totally agree with your point. Everyone should get an equal chance to buy a deck.HFMJ wrote:I know it may look like I whine, but I have a suggestion. If it would be possible in the future for sales like this to be announced for instance with 24h in advance. That way I think everybody would have an equal chance at getting them. I went to bed 30min before the email and it's the second time this happens to me , first was with the Liturgy red and green decks.
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My thoughts exactly. Silver lining and all that.Bradius wrote: Oh well. I guess I get to double down and get an error deck also.
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Totally expecting this.. Otherwise it wouldn't be a Lotrek's deck.
I did my part to help you with your next print run...
BUT PLEASE, HAVE THE DECK IN YOUR HANDS AND READY TO SHIP NEXT TIME. (as other already mentioned)
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I did my part to help you with your next print run...
BUT PLEASE, HAVE THE DECK IN YOUR HANDS AND READY TO SHIP NEXT TIME. (as other already mentioned)
Thank you.
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I didn't get it in 2 of my emails. Very odd.Oscar53955 wrote:Strange... I didn't get this email. I checked my spam too. I also checked my other email with which I signed up on Lotrek's website for updates. The last one I received was about the foil upgrade. Any new ETA mentioned in the email?TheGentlemanWake wrote:Just got “THE” email. Sigh. [emoji20]
So there’s a misprint. Lotrek had to scrap the existing decks because he can’t print replacement cards because there’s no more card stock of the type he used. Selling misprint version for $50
Sorry for the error Lotrek. Hang in there.
Move on, nothing to see here.
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I think everybody who bought the deck should have the chance to buy the deck with the error (in case all decks were printed)
Lotrek would minimize his loss and it would avoid decks being destroyed.
I understand that, now, it wouldn't be fair if someone bought the deck because it would be an ultra limited (70 only) deck, or if someone has bought more now than they had bought of the Arabesque, or if someone bought one now and hasn't bought the Arabesque...
I understand it's Lotrek's decision, we will still get the deck we bought, I just wish his decision was different.
Lotrek would minimize his loss and it would avoid decks being destroyed.
I understand that, now, it wouldn't be fair if someone bought the deck because it would be an ultra limited (70 only) deck, or if someone has bought more now than they had bought of the Arabesque, or if someone bought one now and hasn't bought the Arabesque...
I understand it's Lotrek's decision, we will still get the deck we bought, I just wish his decision was different.
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I suspect that Lotrek was more stunned that I was at how fast those error decks sold out. If he had any inkling they would have been so popular he would have increased the number he sold to help recoup more of his losses (Yeah, another costly mistake Lotrek).
That said, if anyone feels left out, he still has those signed version 1 uncut tuck sheets from the Ambassador Collectors that are still available. Only 25 were made available and I think most are still available. My point is not all of Lotrek's mistakes are gobbled up by the collectors.
That said, if anyone feels left out, he still has those signed version 1 uncut tuck sheets from the Ambassador Collectors that are still available. Only 25 were made available and I think most are still available. My point is not all of Lotrek's mistakes are gobbled up by the collectors.
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Well, I'm not surprised at all when I see the error deck sold out that fast
To me it's an easy buy since I just see the error deck a special deck (with even fewer quantity) with two gaff cards lol
To me it's an easy buy since I just see the error deck a special deck (with even fewer quantity) with two gaff cards lol
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I bought the Arabesque deck right at the first moment.
I had faith that it would be a fantastic deck and I was not disappointed. It's fabulous.
I do not understand is why I did not receive any email saying that there had been a problem with the deck, a delay or that there would be a sale of the decks with an error.
Having to know about the news by third parties does not seem good policy.
I still continue to look forward to my deck, which as I have already said here previously was my birthday present, which was in January.
I had faith that it would be a fantastic deck and I was not disappointed. It's fabulous.
I do not understand is why I did not receive any email saying that there had been a problem with the deck, a delay or that there would be a sale of the decks with an error.
Having to know about the news by third parties does not seem good policy.
I still continue to look forward to my deck, which as I have already said here previously was my birthday present, which was in January.
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It's not a policy... I sent the email to "all customers" from my website's shoutout service. Now I see that quite a few people didn't get it. It was actually not sent to them. I don't know why, I certainly had no reason to purposefully exclude anyone from the email. Now I wonder how many people didn't get the email and are waiting for the deck... I'll have to check them one by one.caramelo wrote: Having to know about the news by third parties does not seem good policy.
*sigh*
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Re: "ARABESQUE" by OathPlayingCards
It seems all the stars have alligned and I just received my "Error" deck today, 10/04.
I think I've run out of adjectives. "Gaff cards" aside, the deck is outstanding. Breathtaking.
In my modest opinion, Lotrek has surpassed himself this time. I wonder what would be next from him.
Thanks, man.
I think I've run out of adjectives. "Gaff cards" aside, the deck is outstanding. Breathtaking.
In my modest opinion, Lotrek has surpassed himself this time. I wonder what would be next from him.
Thanks, man.
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