Sishou Deck Design

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:44 pm

THICKER BORDERS!!!

(RSL runs and hides)

Unread post by **MagikFingerz** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:46 pm

RSLancastr wrote:THICKER BORDERS!!!

(RSL runs and hides)

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:49 pm

I took your valuable feedback ill show you a screenie later

volantangel · Unread post by **volantangel** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:29 pm

Haha what ideas do you have for the jokers ? Eunuchs ??

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:15 pm

volantangel wrote:Haha what ideas do you have for the jokers ? Eunuchs ??

I'm thinking maybe Westerners. George W. Bush, perhaps.

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:08 pm

alvinhy wrote:I took your valuable feedback ill show you a screenie later

Here's what I'm talking about.

I was thinking of going from something like this:

...to something like this:

Of course, most of the gang here would prefer something like this:

...although I doubt the USPCC would go for it.

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 am

why not just like this

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:15 am

Red X again, Alvin!

Check the authority setting on your Photobucket album.

ETA: I mean Imagebam album.

Weird, if I just use the URL, I get to it and see it.

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:23 am

RSLancastr wrote:Red X again, Alvin!

Check the authority setting on your Photobucket album.

ETA: I mean Imagebam album.

Weird, if I just use the URL, I get to it and see it.

That is so weird!!!! omg Im hating this image linking thing....I dont understand it

$12.69 1 deck
$22.21 2 deck

too expensive?

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:56 am

alvinhy wrote:$12.69 1 deck
$22.21 2 deck

too expensive?

Wow. Um,yeah.

volantangel · Unread post by **volantangel** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:04 am

alvinhy wrote: That is so weird!!!! Like, totally! Ohh my gawd! Im hating this image linking thing....I dont understand it

$12.69 1 deck
$22.21 2 deck

too expensive?

Try $8 a deck, $15 for 2. This is what we consider (I hope i represent the general consensous), good reasonable pricing. And definitely do an early bird to get your project started, like maybe 100 $6, 100 $7. Just my humble opinion.

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:35 am

Its really impossible to go that low because of shipping prices in the UK.
As I am based in UK shipping to the US will aleady cost me a lot of money.

Unread post by **MagikFingerz** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:42 am

alvinhy wrote:Its really impossible to go that low because of shipping prices in the UK.
As I am based in UK shipping to the US will aleady cost me a lot of money.

Does that mean those prices would include international shipping?

If they do, then they're pretty decent.

volantangel · Unread post by **volantangel** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:48 am

MagikFingerz wrote:
alvinhy wrote:Its really impossible to go that low because of shipping prices in the UK.
As I am based in UK shipping to the US will aleady cost me a lot of money.
Does that mean those prices would include international shipping?

If they do, then they're pretty decent.

I thought u were based in the us, hence the prices, if these were prices that included int shipping its decent. Oh and round down the figures to 12/22 lol

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:36 am

volantangel wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote:
alvinhy wrote:Its really impossible to go that low because of shipping prices in the UK.
As I am based in UK shipping to the US will aleady cost me a lot of money.
Does that mean those prices would include international shipping?

If they do, then they're pretty decent.
I thought u were based in the us, hence the prices, if these were prices that included int shipping its decent. Oh and round down the figures to 12/22 lol

Yes its free shipping by the way is that ok?! check out a preview of my kickstarter page.
Tell me what you think. and any ideas when to launch?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alv ... n=700f8adf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rentar · Unread post by **rentar** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:48 am

What stands out at me the most is the pledges. I would draft the pledges more along the lines of other Kickstarters. For example, you list "(~$12.69usd) 1 red deck (+£15 per poster) // Free Shipping"

I would, instead, make a note in the main page that all shipping is free, and instead list "1 Red Deck, ~12.69 USD". Remove the poster reference, as it's already clearly listed in the main page. Same thing for the rest of the pledges.

Apart from that, under About This Deck, you list

"This deck inspired by the ancient Chinese mythology beasts. The dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise." Capitalise Dragon. Also, to be grammatically correct, it should read "This deck is inspired by the ancient Chinese mythological/mythical beasts: The Dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise". I'd be hesitant to list them as mythological, since two of them are real animals, and instead list them as Legendary, but that's an artistic choice for this type of project. From a brief skim, I didn't see much else glaringly obvious, but I'm a little preoccupied with other issues at the moment.

[Edit]
Anything in [] should be removed, <> added.

Now that I'm finished with other issues, "SiShou - Four beasts of [the] ancient Chinese history. A fully custom designed deck of playing cards inspired by the four mythical beasts<.>"

"<A> fully custom designed deck of playing cards printed by the United States Playing Card Company." OR "Fully custom designed decks of playing cards printed by the United States Playing Card Company."

"Just so that you have better understanding of how I created this deck[.]<;> This deck inspired by the ancient Chinese [mythology]<mythological> beasts. The dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise. I have incorporated each beast into a corresponding suit.

Creating this deck [is]<was> not an easy task, I [have]<had> to proof read each design to perfect it. Even the face cards spacing and layout was edited more than 10 times. A lot of effort has been placed in designing this deck hoping that it would appeal to you all."

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:07 am

rentar wrote:What stands out at me the most is the pledges. I would draft the pledges more along the lines of other Kickstarters. For example, you list "(~$12.69usd) 1 red deck (+£15 per poster) // Free Shipping"

I would, instead, make a note in the main page that all shipping is free, and instead list "1 Red Deck, ~12.69 USD". Remove the poster reference, as it's already clearly listed in the main page. Same thing for the rest of the pledges.

Apart from that, under About This Deck, you list

"This deck inspired by the ancient Chinese mythology beasts. The dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise." Capitalise Dragon. Also, to be grammatically correct, it should read "This deck is inspired by the ancient Chinese mythological/mythical beasts: The Dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise". I'd be hesitant to list them as mythological, since two of them are real animals, and instead list them as Legendary, but that's an artistic choice for this type of project. From a brief skim, I didn't see much else glaringly obvious, but I'm a little preoccupied with other issues at the moment.

[Edit]
Anything in [] should be removed, <> added.

Now that I'm finished with other issues, "SiShou - Four beasts of [the] ancient Chinese history. A fully custom designed deck of playing cards inspired by the four mythical beasts<.>"

"<A> fully custom designed deck of playing cards printed by the United States Playing Card Company." OR "Fully custom designed decks of playing cards printed by the United States Playing Card Company."

"Just so that you have better understanding of how I created this deck[.]<;> This deck inspired by the ancient Chinese [mythology]<mythological> beasts. The dragon, Phoenix, Tiger, and Tortoise. I have incorporated each beast into a corresponding suit.

Creating this deck [is]<was> not an easy task, I [have]<had> to proof read each design to perfect it. Even the face cards spacing and layout was edited more than 10 times. A lot of effort has been placed in designing this deck hoping that it would appeal to you all."

Thanks for correcting my mistakes! I have updated it.

Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:10 am

What about pledges with only UK shipping?

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:23 am

MagikFingerz wrote:What about pledges with only UK shipping?

There is no shipping costs so wether you buy from China to UK to USA its the same price

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:28 am

Thanks @rentar for all the english mistakes i've made!

DukeBoy · Unread post by **DukeBoy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:30 am

All the images ok the KS page seem to be blured to me making it had to see the design of the deck.

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:38 am

DukeBoy wrote:All the images ok the KS page seem to be blured to me making it had to see the design of the deck.

really? I see it perfectly fine, did you set your view small or something? try resetting your browser view zoom

Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:26 pm

alvinhy wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote:What about pledges with only UK shipping?
There is no shipping costs so wether you buy from China to UK to USA its the same price

That doesn't seem fair. Why should someone in the UK pay for international shipping?

Unread post by **alvinhy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:48 pm

MagikFingerz wrote:
alvinhy wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote:What about pledges with only UK shipping?
There is no shipping costs so wether you buy from China to UK to USA its the same price
That doesn't seem fair. Why should someone in the UK pay for international shipping?

Then people in US would say why UK people pay a lot less lol
its the same vice versa. Fixed price no shipping costs seems to be the best in my opinion.

Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:53 pm

alvinhy wrote: Then people in US would say why UK people pay a lot less lol
its the same vice versa. Fixed price no shipping costs seems to be the best in my opinion.

Why would they say that? On every other kickstarter where people are based in the US, people in the US doesn't pay international shipping. Same thing.

Strag · Unread post by **Strag** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:02 am

MagikFingerz wrote:What about pledges with only UK shipping?

Yeah this is a bit of a shame as those of us in the UK would finally get a break on shipping and instead paying the same for everyone.

BTW, a bit curious about this one. Would seem to me that the most sense would be to have the USPCC ship to a fulfillment house in the US for your USA orders rather than bulk shipping all decks from US to UK and back to US again. Have USPCC given you a shipping quote for 5000 decks to UK and have you included VAT in your pricing? Almost seems like it might not be enough now and I've seen a couple (non-card related) KS horror stories recently.

Russell · Unread post by **Russell** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:39 am

Let's keep this discussion about the DESIGN of the deck.

If you would like to talk about the Kickstater aspect or talk about the deck in general please use the topic below...
http://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1215" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks!

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:25 pm

Way to go, Mr. Thread Killer!

RSLancastr · Unread post by **RSLancastr** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:45 pm

Alvin, if you are still working on ideas for the two Additional cards (I think you referred to them as "gaff cards",but they don't have to be gaffs), I would like to suggest that you make one of them a Title card.

I have always felt that a nice Title card - with the name of the deck, credits for the desiogner & artist, and perhaps a sentence or two explaining the concept of the deck - adds a classy touch to a deck.

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