Dondorf Hundertjahrkarte restoration, uncut sheets available

[MagikFingerz]

Our aim is to produce a deck that will make backers say: "Nah, who needs the original now?"

In many ways the deck is better and more true to the original intent than even first edition 1933 decks. The process was a bear, literally 28 limestone tablets carved and were used like modern day plates just to print them.

They trained A BEAR to carve the limestone tablets??

Damn, that is pretty hardcore.

[Mike Ratledge]

It was a German bear, right?

[MagikFingerz]

It was a German bear, right?

I would assume, that's the only kind that would have enough discipline.

[pablo19]

Really glad to hear you finally got the original text insert!
Is Cartamundi doing anything to promote the decks in Europe? I was looking for playing card forums in German, but can't find anything.

[Mike Ratledge]

Really glad to hear you finally got the original text insert!
Is Cartamundi doing anything to promote the decks in Europe? I was looking for playing card forums in German, but can't find anything.

Not really. I came to them by way of the International Playing Card Society in Nederlands. They (IPCS) have been talking about it, and several backers are from that region, no previous KS experience.

[TGunitedcardists]

Perhaps there needs to be a cheaper reprint in the future, at a regular price, with regular hearts/diamonds/clubs/spades. I love the artwork and would love regular suits. An original, Lotrek designed tuck and you have another winner, both in cards and on the pocket book!

[Mike Ratledge]

Perhaps there needs to be a cheaper reprint in the future, at a regular price, with regular hearts/diamonds/clubs/spades. I love the artwork and would love regular suits. An original, Lotrek designed tuck and you have another winner, both in cards and on the pocket book!

We're both looking at this wondering if we're going to lose money. I would love to be able to produce decks are a reasonable price, but the restrictions on number of sets has really put a hurting on the price, no doubt.

I think there are 83 sets left, less than one third, but I would prefer to have almost all sold before production,since I might be able to negotiate a few things now that we are funded. I think there is a full week left, actually eight days + a few hours.

The idea here - fortunately - wasn't bagging money for the bank, but trying to figure out how to get a foothold in this market. The IP rights holders aren't making it easy.

[Mike Ratledge]

At this point we are down to around 70 decks, and with three days left for the KS campaign, I sent a note to users from UC. If you are reading this, you probably can ignore that short note.

[Mike Ratledge]

I'm trying to remember to post project updates here for UC preorder backers: (the latest)

Now we can begin work in earnest! As Lotrek turns over the finalized artwork to Cartamundi, the clock will start ticking on the production schedule, and now that we are having Cartamundi produce all decks on their best paper stock, we can expect to have them in six to eight weeks after the final artwork is approved. Somewhere in this time we will receive proofs for approval, but we hope that there is no delay or only minor changes / fixes needed, so that timing estimate stays true.

That being the case, we should be able to move the delivery time forward, but until we see proofs, we will leave it where it is. Our hope is that you are going to be seeing you Dondorf restoration sets around the end of August instead of the originally projected October.

As things move through the production phases waiting for decks and after, we will keep everyone apprised of the progress.

If you want an extra set or know someone who wants one, the 50 or so remaining sets put of 250 authorized and being printed, they are available on UCdecksales.com for a $5 premium over the Kickstarter campaign price.

Just in case you missed it during the last few days of the campaign, we were able to obtain and translate the original text insert in German from the presentation set, and it will be included - both in the original German and translated into English

[Mike Ratledge]

Uncut sheets by Cartamundi are available with shipping worldwide for $40 +$15 shipping.
Remember, this is a crowd funded item that will not be available until October.

UCdecksales

[ecNate]

Uncut sheets by Cartamundi are available with shipping worldwide for $40 +$15 shipping.
Remember, this is a crowd funded item that will not be available until October.

UCdecksales

Well now you definitely have my interest!!! I couldn't justify buying a $100 and having to choose between opening it and never being able to sell vs being a tuckbox collector. This I can get behind though, even if I am pretty much out of wall space (stairway works too, right? )

QUESTION/REQUEST - Can we get a render of the uncut layout? The image shown doesn't match the description (8 wide, 7 tall) and obviously is missing the other cards. Are these not yet complete or do you just not yet know the layout? I'll probably get no matter the layout, but it would help.

Also, I saw this on the KS page "ONLY the Cartamundi edition is uncut-able", what does that mean?

As listed on pre-order page(s) for the uncut:



The only non court cards I've seen posted, as listed on KS page:

[Bruno]

Ref. to the now defuncto MPC invocation ....

[Mike Ratledge]

Uncut sheets by Cartamundi are available with shipping worldwide for $40 +$15 shipping.
Remember, this is a crowd funded item that will not be available until October.

UCdecksales

Well now you definitely have my interest!!! I couldn't justify buying a $100 and having to choose between opening it and never being able to sell vs being a tuckbox collector. This I can get behind though, even if I am pretty much out of wall space (stairway works too, right? )

QUESTION/REQUEST - Can we get a render of the uncut layout? The image shown doesn't match the description (8 wide, 7 tall) and obviously is missing the other cards. Are these not yet complete or do you just not yet know the layout? I'll probably get no matter the layout, but it would help.

Also, I saw this on the KS page "ONLY the Cartamundi edition is uncut-able", what does that mean?

As Bruno already noted, we originally were going to use MPC to print the "Player's Deck", but now Cartamundi is printing both. MPC doesn't make traditional uncuts, although they will print you a 55-card sheet (11 wide, 5 tall) if you want them for $20 per sheet, I believe.

The picture is a place-holder right now, but Lotrek will post a mock-up of the uncut sheet shortly. It should be more-or-less identical format as the USPCC uncut sheets, with 52 cards, 3 Jokers + one double-backer. The OG deck had 3 Jokers plus a German-only point chart for Rummy (I think, not 100% certain). I didn't see any reason to reproduce that one, and I figured most uncut collectors would much prefer a double backer card or at least one that has the back design on the face of the card so it shows on the side of the uncut with the face cards.

In most cases, it's Ace of Spades through the 10, J, Q, K and repeat for hearts, with clubs and diamonds following in reverse order - Jokers at the end of the deck with the double backer. I am not doing the layout, so I'll let Lotrek give us the skinny on specifics when he's laid it out, and at this point there are still some cards including most of the digit / number cards that have not been completed. I expect that all will be complete here shortly, and then they will be sent to Cartamundi for their digital proofing, followed by physical proofs, and finally production decks with uncuts.

The 'stand-in' picture is simply the 12 court cards shown together as an example of what those look like.

[theCapraAegagrus]

Think I made a mistake by not backing this project during the Kickstarter campaign...

Mike - How many sets are available?

[Mike Ratledge]

Think I made a mistake by not backing this project during the Kickstarter campaign...

Mike - How many sets are available?

Last time I did a count it was around 60, so I know there are at least 50 sets still available (out of 250 total that were authorized by Cartamundi's A.S.S. division in Germany).

The uncuts don't count towards that total, so I suspect that there will be around 550-600 total impressions, with 20-30 uncuts and 250 each of the gilded restoration and 250 Player's decks.

[chach]

Hey Mike, what's the word on these? Any update on the production?

[Mike Ratledge]

Hey Mike, what's the word on these? Any update on the production?

They are going to press this weekend, but I wanted to have a little more before I post the updates.

[Mike Ratledge]

I just posted an update on Facebook for these, and rather than repeat it word for word, here is the link:

Post on Facebook

Basically It's a shot of most of the as yet unseen courts, along with a warning that you have to order an uncut "really soon now" before the final press run. Once the proofs are approved, those will be like hen's teeth. Right now, I expect only 30 will be made.

(thanks to ecNate for the link fix)

[chach]

Damnit, I'm trying to cut back, especially on uncuts, but I couldn't resist, Mike. 1 Dondorf uncut ordered.

[Mike Ratledge]

Damnit, I'm trying to cut back, especially on uncuts, but I couldn't resist, Mike. 1 Dondorf uncut ordered.

Can't help it, buddy. Lotrek did an awesome job on these! I will be honest and say that they look better than the original cards, because of the inconsistent colors and textures in the 1932 decks

Here are a couple more courts, but I will wait for him to post some of the observations and discoveries.

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[Mike Ratledge]

Art prints are available for US delivery on UCdecksales.com now, but only two: the back of the cards and the King of Clubs with the "hidden" 3/4 perspective of a woman.

Both can be ordered in 10" × 14" size or 13" × 19" size for $10 and $20 respectively. They are delivered like uncut sheets, rolled up in a 3" × 24" tube. Priority Mail 2 to 3-day delivery is $15 for up to five prints.

[ecNate]

I know it's still early in October, but any updates on production? In particular looking for when I might get that sweet uncut.

[chewbrandon]

I'm surprised these are still available for sale. I'm not complaining as it gave me a chance to pick this up!

Simply breathtaking work by Lotrek (but no surprise there right?)

[Mike Ratledge]

We expect to have the decks in a couple of weeks now. Probably in one pile after they do the gilding for half of them.

The projected delivery date is 10-November so I can figure that they will start going out sometime in the second half of the month.

Looking forward to it myself! I have been working on this project for nearly 3 years now.

[Mike Ratledge]

I just posted an update on Kickstarter. Please read this and let me know if I got it right.

Lotrek is supervising a reprint of the defks. Details about the problem are in the update, along with new expectations. We're hoping to have the reprint in three weeks.

[RichK]

I didn't back this through KS and I could read it. Boy those are some real issues hopefully easily fixable. Nice details about card printing too.

[Mike Ratledge]

Thanks, Rich. I wanted it to be informative and Lotrek made sure that we were technically accurate.

We know that you and lots of people backed it after the KS project, so we couldn't make it Backer Only.

The fix is easy, and we are kind of stumped that it happened, because the only thing that needs to happen is the correct application and order of inks are followed, CMYK followed by the metallic gold and then the varnish / sealant. There really shouldn't be any CMYK in the borders at all, and usually if you use a metallic it is the only thing on that part of the paper.
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[Mike Ratledge]

They hadn't sent the gilded proof for approval, but after we agreed to reprint this showed up.

[Cbkimble]

Dang, those look amazing.

[Mike Ratledge]

Finally, after a month of waiting for the reprint, the decks are done, gilded and being shipped to Lotrek in Greece.

During the reprint process, Cartamundi over printed 10% on the gilded decks. We have precisely 30 extra gilded decks. To be fair to backers, they will be available only at a premium. I have not published an update on Kickstarter, but will tomorrow.

Tomorrow is my birthday so I decided to give UC members a discount code good for one copy, one per customer, limited to the first ten uses.

The code is:

$10_Off_gilded

Through Saturday at midnight (EST / NYC time) you can buy one for $58 instead of the $75 we are going to be charging.

It's only good for the single gilded deck, which comes in a plain white windowed tuck box.

Again, one deck discount per customer, don't share outside the membership, expires midnight Saturday and limited to ten uses total.

Theu will be fulfilled around the first week of the new year - by me, not Lotrek.

The price goes up to $75 in two weeks, for now I dropped it $7 to include Priority Mail shipping. Sorry that I can't help more with overseas shipping. For now, the only notice about this is here.