Gemini by Stockholm17 (Lorenzo)

[Justin O.]

That 3rd deck is happening, no doubt. I hope the aqua foil on the tuck really pops than it being just another black tuck.

Maybe I missed it on the page but how will this be available? Add-on? If so, do we know how much?

My understanding is that there will be new modified tiers to include Noctis as well as the ability to add it to existing pledges as an Add-On, I suspect pricing will be the same as the current decks (≈$15 US)

[Mike Ratledge]

Exactly right, Justin.

[vasta41]

Thanks, guys! I was curious if there'd be any EB pricing on it but I guess not. I hope all the goals are reached!

[Stockholm17]

Hi guys


thanx for the comments. I can answer to a few questions, even though I am still planning how to release the experimental.

I was planning to open a limited reward with 80-100 slots then everybody is free to add what they want.
I have to decide how to manage early birds. The backers will get detailed instructions, I´ll try to make it simple and clear.

I am thinking of experimental uncut sheets as well, they are very nice indeed. Maybe after the campaign, I have the typography 200mt from home lol

I will release a special item for collectors and the experimental will be for free. Just stay tuned.

[Stockholm17]

Gemini Experimental is taking shape.
Next week i fetch this and I will take more pictures

Got this photo from the printer

[TGunitedcardists]

Hi guys


thanx for the comments. I can answer to a few questions, even though I am still planning how to release the experimental.

I was planning to open a limited reward with 80-100 slots then everybody is free to add what they want.
I have to decide how to manage early birds. The backers will get detailed instructions, I´ll try to make it simple and clear.

I am thinking of experimental uncut sheets as well, they are very nice indeed. Maybe after the campaign, I have the typography 200mt from home lol

I will release a special item for collectors and the experimental will be for free. Just stay tuned.

Why don't you just create another Kickstarter? Why add new tiers, ask people to leave them and add-on decks? Kickstarter takes their cut on the total amount, correct? So, one project or two projects doesn't matter.

Erik Mana did this with one of his projects:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/er ... escription" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Keeps things separate and simple from a pledging perspective. And it doesn't cost you extra money, right? Win win?

[JuFiN]

What happens if his second Kickstarter doesn't fund? Adding to this one removes that risk however small it may be.

[TGunitedcardists]

What happens if his second Kickstarter doesn't fund? Adding to this one removes that risk however small it may be.

There is no risk, because he's deciding to do it.

Mana priced it at $100 to guarantee it would fund and that he'd do it no matter how many pledged. In the end, the biggest hurdle was communication and delivery, not the backers or the money.

[phantom1412]

I think same project is better or else international customers would have to pay shipping fee twice, which will make a lot of them draw back from the second one.

[Mike Ratledge]

I think same project is better or else international customers would have to pay shipping fee twice, which will make a lot of them draw back from the second one.

Great point! Shipping twice for one address overseas just doesn't make sense when prices are too high to begin with.

[Stockholm17]

hi!

is dont see the problem with new tiers, it is a way for me to keep everything in order (less mistakes during shipping) and a way for you to have a clear description of the items you are backing. Moving does not cost anything and you are free to choose.

Another parallel kickstarter project was a thought for Gemini Experimental, but I want to keep everything on the same page.

Next weekend I am wanting to unlock noctis after the release of Gemini Experimental. I will anticipate the stretch goal even if I am 2k USD short.. let´s see
Friday Gemini Experimental, Saturday Noctis and special items you will see at the release

Just stay tuned, what I ask is just to read the updates.
cheers

[Stockholm17]

and this is the inner foil design for the tuckboxes

[TGunitedcardists]

hi!

is dont see the problem with new tiers, it is a way for me to keep everything in order (less mistakes during shipping) and a way for you to have a clear description of the items you are backing. Moving does not cost anything and you are free to choose.

OK. But it does cost us more money because we are going to spend more!:p

You really run your Kickstarter projects in a very clear way and almost forces us to up our pledges. It's really a model of how other creators should run their projects.

Please post a link and time here when you've decided.

[RickDavidson]

Beaaautiful work as always Lorenzo. Amazing all round, and that Gemini Experiemental... wow...

[Stockholm17]

hi!

is dont see the problem with new tiers, it is a way for me to keep everything in order (less mistakes during shipping) and a way for you to have a clear description of the items you are backing. Moving does not cost anything and you are free to choose.

OK. But it does cost us more money because we are going to spend more!:p

You really run your Kickstarter projects in a very clear way and almost forces us to up our pledges. It's really a model of how other creators should run their projects.

Please post a link and time here when you've decided.

ahah thanx
what I can tell you now is that you get extra stuff with noctis
I promise

Thanx Rick!!! much appreciated

[Stockholm17]

I opened a facebook event (public) for the launch of Gemini Experimental

join now
https://www.facebook.com/events/1324715000891689/

[TGunitedcardists]

I opened a facebook event (public) for the launch of Gemini Experimental

join now
https://www.facebook.com/events/1324715000891689/

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There's been much worse for me, so this isn't a big issue!

Looking forward to this. If you can, please post an explanation or walk us through what we have to do to change our pledge. The least ideal scenario is there's a mad rush to read, change pledges and hurry because we might not get what we want and how it works.

[Stockholm17]

I opened a facebook event (public) for the launch of Gemini Experimental

join now
https://www.facebook.com/events/1324715000891689/

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There's been much worse for me, so this isn't a big issue!

Looking forward to this. If you can, please post an explanation or walk us through what we have to do to change our pledge. The least ideal scenario is there's a mad rush to read, change pledges and hurry because we might not get what we want and how it works.

Hi! i will post an update soon, to manage the pledge is quite easy. You can do it now just to do some practice.. In the campaign page, under the current raised amount, there is a blue button saying "manage your pledge". Take a look at it, the credit card is not charged untill the end of the campaign, so you can do your tests. Write me an email via kickstarter so I know all your backing details

[RichK]

I opened a facebook event (public) for the launch of Gemini Experimental

join now
https://www.facebook.com/events/1324715000891689/

Friday, September 23, 2016 at 5:00:00 PM
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Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 12:00:00 AM
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There's been much worse for me, so this isn't a big issue!

Looking forward to this. If you can, please post an explanation or walk us through what we have to do to change our pledge. The least ideal scenario is there's a mad rush to read, change pledges and hurry because we might not get what we want and how it works.

Hi! i will post an update soon, to manage the pledge is quite easy. You can do it now just to do some practice.. In the campaign page, under the current raised amount, there is a blue button saying "manage your pledge". Take a look at it, the credit card is not charged untill the end of the campaign, so you can do your tests. Write me an email via kickstarter so I know all your backing details

Joined event. Managing is the easy part, math might hard part due to non dollar amounts on my end.

Side question to Lorenzo or and backers of his previous campaigns: Why isn't this deck moving faster up the stretch goals? It seems to have stalled or am I nervous for nothing?

[Stockholm17]

Side question to Lorenzo or and backers of his previous campaigns: Why isn't this deck moving faster up the stretch goals? It seems to have stalled or am I nervous for nothing?

I dont really know, prices are good and int.shipping as well.
The fact that it is in swedish crowns is an issue for sure, and probably the market is different from 2 years ago.
Also there are many custom decks on kickstarter...
let´s how it does after the release of noctis, i have a lot of cool stuff to show
cheers
Lorenzo

[Azid]

Side question to Lorenzo or and backers of his previous campaigns: Why isn't this deck moving faster up the stretch goals? It seems to have stalled or am I nervous for nothing?

I dont really know, prices are good and int.shipping as well.
The fact that it is in swedish crowns is an issue for sure, and probably the market is different from 2 years ago.
Also there are many custom decks on kickstarter...
let´s how it does after the release of noctis, i have a lot of cool stuff to show
cheers
Lorenzo

Can just tell how i do:
... right now i'm in for the 6 deck tier (3 of both version which i really want to have) and i'm waiting till noctis unlocks. Then i will raise my pledge and change to a higher & new tier. I guess i'm not the only one who is just waiting. I would have chosen a higher tier if it would be like the RAVN campaign.

In the RAVN campaign tiers already included the case that the other deck gets unlocked.
Example:
"4 Ravn Red decks: When Ravn Green unlocks, you will get 2 Red Ravn decks and 2 Green Ravn decks."

At the RAVN campaign i wanted only 2 red decks but pledged from start the 4 deck tier because i was confident that the green one unlocks. If it would not have been unlocked i would have lowered my pledge down to 2 red decks on the last day.

The difference is: At the RAVN i was able to pledge for both decks from the launch day.
At Gemini i can only pledge for the 2 decks that are available, without knowing how much the 3rd will cost and in which tiers it is included.

Greets, Azid

[4.of.Clubs]

At the RAVN campaign i wanted only 2 red decks but pledged from start the 4 deck tier because i was confident that the green one unlocks. If it would not have been unlocked i would have lowered my pledge down to 2 red decks on the last day.

The difference is: At the RAVN i was able to pledge for both decks from the launch day.
At Gemini i can only pledge for the 2 decks that are available, without knowing how much the 3rd will cost and in which tiers it is included.

Greets, Azid

Did you get the EB for the 4 decks? There will always be the risk that the green deck won't make it, then you would have also lost the 2 deck EB price. There are always 2 sides to it I guess.

I personally never liked "pre-pledging" for the stretch goals since they don't always happen.

[Azid]

Did you get the EB for the 4 decks? There will always be the risk that the green deck won't make it, then you would have also lost the 2 deck EB price. There are always 2 sides to it I guess.

I personally never liked "pre-pledging" for the stretch goals since they don't always happen.

No, there was no early bird for 4 decks.
And "pre-pledging" i do only when tiers available, like RAVN or Omnia Goldan Age did & i personally think that it will make it

[Stockholm17]

you will find out why I cannot do dynamic rewards as I did for ravn and no.17

also I need to have order and avoid mistakes during fulfillment with backers all over the places.
Changing reward is not a big issue, you can do it when you want and your money are not taken.
Kickstarter charges only at the end of the campaign

[vasta41]

The tuck for the experimental version is one of the most gorges tucks I've ever seen. But $65 is just too much for me to afford right now. I will live vicariously through the pictures people post here!

[Mike Ratledge]

Just a heads-up for members, 17.00 (5PM) in Stockholm, which is on Central European Time is 11AM here on the east coast US, now on Eastern Daylight Time.

[Stockholm17]

sneak peek

[JuFiN]

I don't even know what I'm looking at and I want it...

[chach]

Looks like a wooden case with inlaid brass objects.

[Bruno]

'Tis one of them Moon Dials, for the telling of the time in the night !
Never a popular item for some reason I be in the dark about, but thisun looks pretty handy.