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- Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:14 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
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Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
This guy’s testing found that particular detector was the only one tested that identified human taken photo as high percent chance AI generated… https://www.makeuseof.com/ai-image-detectors-accuracy-test/ That's an interesting test, although a sample size of only 1 data point for handmade imagery s...
- Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:49 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
Sorry, I'm a little too busy to continue this discussion. I have my opinions on everything mentioned here and there, but it doesn't matter. Yesterday, I ran some other tests and was able to reduce the percentage by 60%. Again, it doesn't matter. I know how to manipulate this system—sorry, no instru...
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:17 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
It's clearly true, as Montenzi himself just demonstrated above and has been demonstrated a multitude of times elsewhere with text and other media. Not sure why you're putting so much trust in the software. Please provide links to these comprehensive demonstrations showing that the Illuminarty softw...
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:07 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
Knowing whether a work was generated by artificial intelligence is a somewhat useless debate, this debate a storm in a teacup. If I like a graphic work, I buy it... It is evident that this debate is relevant and important. People who vote with their wallets and are willing to cancel their pledges o...
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:55 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
Frankly I don't think these AI "detectors" work at all, no matter what sort of human analysis you add to it. Could you elaborate? I thought that was pretty clear. Those AI detectors don't work. Analyzing the data they provide doesn't add anything to their effectiveness. It's not clear to ...
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:38 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
Could you elaborate?Adamthinks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:51 pm Frankly I don't think these AI "detectors" work at all, no matter what sort of human analysis you add to it.
- Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:40 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
AI based AI detectors are less than reliable it would seem. If a human can’t tell, don’t trust a robot - and if they can - you didn’t need the robot. Illuminarty is the most reliable I've found so far, although it is definitely not perfect. I think the combination of both human and cumputer analysi...
- Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:34 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
I haven't read this post carefully, but the first thing I did was test some of my decks. The results were quite funny! I used https://app.illuminarty.ai/ to test, right? First, I tested the cards from my 100% AI project. Well, with 10 cards, the average result was well below 10%! In some cases, it ...
- Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:48 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Re: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
Visual analysis result link as there is an attachment limit on the forum: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kc5nsb ... sp=sharing
- Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:46 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
- Replies: 20
- Views: 977
Artificial intelligence cannot draw: Detecting text-to-image GenAI imagery in a Kickstarter playing card project
1. thumbnail.jpg ABSTRACT This study examines the authenticity of the artwork in the Gothica playing card Kickstarter project, addressing growing concerns among playing card collectors about the use of text-to-image[1] generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) in playing card designs. With the ris...
- Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
Hah, that’s makes sense! I didn’t realize there was a market for selling AI prompts. Now that you mention it, it doesn’t surprise me. I’ve never used that Canva program, but I keep seeing all this stuff about designers making money from selling their custom Canva templates. I could imagine AI promp...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:54 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
You are comparing forgers that have dedicated their lives to master their craft to some lazy con artists that can't even be bothered to fix mangled hands in their AI-generated portraits. I don't see how that's a fair comparison. Top Is it fair to say that all AI-generated portraits are by lazy con ...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:13 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
You are comparing forgers that have dedicated their lives to master their craft to some lazy con artists that can't even be bothered to fix mangled hands in their AI-generated portraits. I don't see how that's a fair comparison. Top Is it fair to say that all AI-generated portraits are by lazy con ...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:38 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
Yes, I’ll definitely mention AI in the Kickstarter campaign. I’ll even call out MidJourney as the software I used. That's good to know, it's how it should be. I have a question for you, if that’s alright. What is your job title for work? I’ve seen others mention that they’ve generated thousands of ...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:03 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
If you can’t differentiate between a print and a watercolour painting… oh bwoi… that aside: Explain to me how people find AI art appealing but only when they don’t know it’s AI crafted? First off, the term is AI-generated, not AI-crafted. AI does not craft anything, it's what people do with their h...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:57 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
When I launch the Travel the World Decks on Kickstarter, I will definitely be forthcoming about using AI to create the illustrations. I have no idea what to expect for support on this one. My hope is it will do very well if my advertising reaches travel fans outside of the Playing Cards scene. But ...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:36 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
I haven't met a single person who found AI decks appealing; only those who didn't know it's AI There is something wrong with that sentence if you think about it :ugthink: My point is that people find certain decks appealing with an honest presumption that they were handmade and reflect the craftsma...
- Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
I am so worried about my future as an illustrator, and I really hope that people and clients will in the end look for authenticity and will know how to recognise AI generated images. But I wonder if that will even be possible, because I am sure that AI will get much better over time, and counting f...
- Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
It's not, no. My pov is as follows: If I like the art it doesn't matter how it was crafted so there is no money in question.There're two decks that I found mildly interesting involving AI. All other decks with AI, were decks that lacked always the touch I look for in a deck - can't describe it with...
- Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:06 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
- Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:54 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
Is it not the case? I'd like to hear your position on that.
- Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:22 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Re: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
It always amazes me for what kinda battles folks take their time. I would lie, if I would pretend it’s not entertaining though. I'm glad you find it entertaining, I'm in the same camp. Besides the amusement and entertainment, there's people's money and the integrity of the Kickstarter playing card ...
- Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:17 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Use of stock images
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1033
Re: Use of stock images
In terms of AI decks, they're rubbish. Not only there's barely any artistry or craftsmanship involved in their creation, but the designers also tend to go to great lengths to hide the GenAI involvement in their projects. Great generalisation. May I ask which bot hurt you? Yes, you may, although you...
- Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:57 am
- Forum: New & Custom Decks
- Topic: Unity Frankendeck by DripDrop Sounds and ShuffleCut 52
- Replies: 187
- Views: 432602
Re: Unity Frankendeck by DripDrop Sounds and ShuffleCut 52
I guess the design arrangement with the artists made it too much to ask for a back design as well? If they're paid to do a back design they all would've made one for sure. :lol: I'm not too sure if they were paid upfront at all. Might be an agreement on royalty payments, as many creative collaborat...
- Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:50 am
- Forum: Custom Deck Drafting Board
- Topic: ABOUT FACE: a twist to the rotational symmetry (Mathilde Heu)
- Replies: 39
- Views: 12870
Re: ABOUT FACE: a twist to the rotational symmetry (Mathilde Heu)
You have a lovely art style! The light blue outline might look a bit faint when printed, did you try experimenting with a bit darker shade of blue or perhaps black?
- Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:42 am
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
- Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: General Playing Cards Discussion
- Topic: Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5056
Exposing Kickstarter AI con artists
I've been quite vocal about so-called playing card artists using AI in their projects and blatantly lying about it. One of the most recent examples is a project called BIG BROTHER 2024 by Andy Kurovets, also known as 3rd Dominion on this forum as well as on Kickstarter. You can read my (Gajus) comme...
- Sun Aug 18, 2024 2:18 pm
- Forum: New & Custom Decks
- Topic: All aboard the Hanafuda Railroad
- Replies: 509
- Views: 233970
Re: All aboard the Hanafuda Railroad
Thanks for the response. I'm pretty sure I've seen these types of cards somewhere before but I didn't make the connection. Will be interesting to learn a bit more
- Sun Aug 18, 2024 2:07 pm
- Forum: New & Custom Decks
- Topic: Stellar Monarchs: The Cosmic Poker Deck [KS]
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1034
Re: Stellar Monarchs: The Cosmic Poker Deck [KS]
The creator's name is one word spacing away from an association with the white supremacist group who used to roleplay as ghosts in the first half of the 20th century
- Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: New & Custom Decks
- Topic: All aboard the Hanafuda Railroad
- Replies: 509
- Views: 233970
Re: All aboard the Hanafuda Railroad
What is Hanafuda and how do you eat it?